Scott Winship on Income Inequality

by Will Wilkinson on November 12, 2009

If you want to know how much income inequality has really risen in recent years, Scott Winship has written a terrific short essay summarizing much of what we now know. And what we know is that almost the entire increase in inequality since the 1980s is attributable to a stupendous rise in incomes at the top of the top of the top of the income distribution. Here’s Scott, near the end of his analysis:

Discussion of income inequality trends generally proceeds as if some sizable fraction of the population were getting richer (the top 10 percent, or the top 1 percent) while everyone else is getting poorer. In reality, the “poorest” 90 percent of the top 10 percent—and even the “poorest” half of the top 1 percent—have not seen outsized income gains over the past 30 years. It is only the top one-half-of-one-percent that has received a rapidly increasing share of income. Furthermore, the increase in concentration at the very top has been smaller than the most-cited figures have implied. For example, using a comprehensive measure of income, the top one percent probably received about 8 percent of income in 1980 and about 12 percent in 2008.

Nor have the poor fallen behind the typical household. Indeed, they may not even have fallen behind the 90th percentile. If this finding holds up, then it would seem that resentment toward the top one-half-of-one-percent should have grown equally among households with contemporary incomes as high as half a million dollars and households below the poverty line. Put another way, if rising inequality is unfair, then it may be that it has been as unfair for the 90th or 95th percentile as it has for the 10th percentile.

It is not immediately clear what to think about income concentration being confined to the very top. Would it be worse if income were becoming increasingly concentrated in the top half of the distribution at the expense of the bottom half or if it were becoming increasingly concentrated in Bill and Melinda Gates’s household at the expense of everyone else? Does the answer change depending on whether the “losers” are experiencing strong income growth or not? On some level, as long as incomes are rising for everyone, it matters little how much more the Gates’s income is rising. They cannot price others out of markets for goods and services by themselves. On the other hand, if the top fifth of the income distribution is pulling away from the bottom 80 percent, then the consequences for those falling behind could be profound. The top fifth might be able to sort themselves into the best neighborhoods with the best schools, and they might bid up the cost of higher education to the point where the best schools become unaffordable to most families.

The evidence indicates that patterns of inequality more closely resemble the Gates scenario than the bifurcation scenario. It is unlikely that the rise in inequality, then, has had much practical impact on the quality of life of middle-income or poor Americans. The exception would be if rising inequality had spawned competitive spending patterns to maintain relative standing in such a way that families end up worse off as a consequence of trying to keep up with the Joneses. For now, however, this possibility remains largely untested.

Please do read the whole thing.

  • Hunter
    "Picture income distribution as a number line fixed at zero at one end and continuing unbounded on the other end. The ratio of the upper 5% band to the lower 5% band will always be increasing, given that the the lower 5% band will always include zero, and a lot of data points very near zero." - Ken Wabel

    Um, no. The line is not fixed at zero, and should not be. In pre-classical economic theory (to give it an anachronistic but suggestive name, Malthusian economics), the lower bound of the line is fixed at 'subsistence' (i.e. the income necessary to afford to buy enough food to make it to tomorrow). Actually, if subsistence were truly the level at which the lower bound of the line were set, the lower classes would never experience any population growth (lacking as they then would the necessary chemical energy to produce children in excess of the replacement rate), which they have for most of recorded history. Classical economics (Ricardo, Smith, etc.) consisted of several competing attempts to explicate a theory that could account for this observed fact.

    Sometimes, of course, the lower bound falls below subsistence *but still above zero* (e.g. the Irish potato famine), usually because of natural disaster, but more recently (as in the case of the Irish famine) also sometimes because of 'economic mismanagement'. It is an interesting question as to whether such 'mismanagement' implies a manager. The prevailing capitalist orthodoxy claims that *correct* management implies the *lack* of a manager, but this is far from clear to me theoretically or empirically (though Hayek does make a strong theoretical case).

    In any case, it is by no means clear that we (as a polity or as a species) cannot (either through central planning, [which admittedly doesn't have a great track record] or through some clever manipulation of the market's 'rules of the road') ensure that the lower bound of that line is *much higher* than mere subsistence. How much higher is primarily a political question. As DMonteith aptly puts it:

    "Not many people have a problem with an unequal distribution of surpluses. Again, what's at stake here is the definition of "surplus" versus what constitutes basic needs. There's a moral/normative argument that, for instance, some level of access to health care should now be defined as a basic need, not as a surplus good subject to unequal distribution."

    Incidentally, the key to not utterly failing to understand that last sentence is the phrase 'some level'. Even Hayek agreed with this sentiment. (I kind of hate myself for writing that last sentence, but, well, it's both true and apropos.)
  • Vangel
    "So in a libertarian society what is there to keep the extremely wealthy from owning all the property and indenturing all the have not's to work on their land just as the serfs of the middle ages?"

    I think that you think of society as some type of Malthusian nightmare in which the gain of one person is offset by a loss by another but that is not the case. In a libertarian society, individuals can only become rich if they can convince consumers to buy the products and services that they offer. They can only do that if they provide quality products and services at prices that are preferable to those offered by their competitors. If you knew anything about the way economies work you will be aware that rich people need many well paid employees to design, make and sell those products and services. Individuals like Bill Gates, Sam Walton and Warren Buffett have become extremely wealthy. But as they became wealthy, they also made tens of thousands of their employees and investors extremely wealthy and provided good paying jobs to millions of people, not only in the US but around the world.

    Your Malthusian nightmare does not exist in a free market economic system, only in the socialist one that you actually favour.

    "I really find that if you think libertarianism and "free markets" principles through to their logical conclusion you end up with serfdom. I've not met one libertarian who can rebut this point with any degree of logic."

    This only proves that you have never actually met a real libertarian. If you had, you may have learned that free market capitalism is the only economic system that is truly compatible with liberty, material prosperity, and human dignity. You may have learned that every step that takes us away from free market capitalism is a step that brings us to serfdom, where the worst people in society are given the power to plan and manage the economy that they cannot possibly understand.

    None of what I say is anything new or novel. Early last century, men like Ludwig von Mises followed in the steps of the French defenders of classical liberalism and showed that every step towards central planning (and away from the free market capitalism) was a step towards totalitarianism and the loss of human liberty as well as human dignity. Mises proved that the central planners had to fail because they had no access to the price information that only free markets can provide. Central planning and socialism would make society poorer, harsher and more despotic. less liveable, more brutal, more despotic. By the way, the argument was against both types of socialism; the international type favoured by Lenin, Mao, and Marx as well as the national type favoured by Mussolini and Hitler.
  • muirgeo
    "Like a typical libertarian, I favour free markets and oppose corporatism and socialism."



    So in a libertarian society what is there to keep the extremely wealthy from owning all the property and indenturing all the have not's to work on their land just as the serfs of the middle ages?

    I really find that if you think libertarianism and "free markets" principles through to their logical conclusion you end up with serfdom. I've not met one libertarian who can rebut this point with any degree of logic.
  • muirgeo
    Vangel,

    Not true. All societies do have concentrations of wealth amongst the top but it is NOT uniform in degree from society to society and there is good evidence to suggest liberty and economic efficiency drop when wealth is too concentrated.

    As far as, "what this society is about", are you telling me that degree wealth concentration IS NOT policy driven? Certainly it is and you seem to be claiming that the 99.5% should have no say in policy and ultimately wealth concentration. They should just done on and watch more of the productive wealth they create be given to a small minority who really will do nothing good with it.
  • Vangel
    "As far as, "what this society is about", are you telling me that degree wealth concentration IS NOT policy driven?"

    Not at all. I think that no matter which policies are in place you will have a similar distribution. In the USSR and China we had the top few people control most of the capital in the nation and lived as kings even as the average worker lived in poverty and as the top doctors, professors, lawyers, scientists, etc., had a standard of living that was below that of a simple tradesman in the West.

    "Certainly it is and you seem to be claiming that the 99.5% should have no say in policy and ultimately wealth concentration."

    I don't think that anyone should have a say on the matter. I favour free markets in which people can keep what they earn and taxpayers do not bail out politically connected companies, their shareholders and workers. I have no problem if Steve Jobs earns a billion dollars because he is good at driving Apple's strategy against its competitors and would not lose any sleep if Jamie Dimon went bankrupt. Like a typical libertarian, I favour free markets and oppose corporatism and socialism.

    "They should just done on and watch more of the productive wealth they create be given to a small minority who really will do nothing good with it."

    Who is they? And why should 'they' decide where wealth should go when we know that the free market is much better at ensuring that those that deserve wealth actually accumulate it?

    And why aren't you arguing that governments need to step aside and make certain that corporations that screw up are allowed to go bankrupt? Why aren't you pi**ed off that governments are using the taxpayer and consumer to ensure that incompetent managers and workers are protected from more competent competitors that offer better products and services at favourable costs? Why aren't you pi**ed off that trial lawyers are allowed to get rich by robbing shareholders and workers of companies just because they are good at picking ignorant jurors who have no common sense and are emotional rather than rational? Why aren't you pi**ed off that organizations like the AMA prevent competition in health care or that states do not permit insurance companies to sell across state lines?

    The problem does not come from rich people but from a system that allows some to get rich thanks to the use of the government's monopoly on the initiation of power and its ability to meddle in voluntary transactions.
  • DMonteith
    ...we know that the free market is much better at ensuring that those that deserve wealth actually accumulate it...

    Since conversing with you is obviously pointless, I'd just like to point out to others who might read this that markets have nothing to tell us about "deserving". Markets tend to efficiently allocate resources to various uses, and this efficient allocation is different for every possible different initial distribution of wealth. The shape of the initial distribution is a question that markets are completely indifferent to. Ensuring that those that "deserve" wealth actually accumulate it is a political process, not a market process. Just saying.
  • Vangel
    ....I'd just like to point out to others who might read this that markets have nothing to tell us about "deserving".

    I think that is because you define the word 'deserving' as something having to do with morality, hard work, or intelligence. But that is not what the market considers deserving. The market does not consider or care such factors and only rewards value creation that comes from the production of goods and services that people want. End of story.

    Ensuring that those that "deserve" wealth actually accumulate it is a political process, not a market process.

    Human nature will ensure that politics will define 'deserving' in a way that will harm value creation. That is why we need to take politics out of the game and let the free market determine who gets what based on their ability to create value for others who choose freely to purchase what the producers are offering.
  • muirgeo
    "The market does not consider or care such factors and only rewards value creation ..." Vangel


    It's amazing that even with the 20/20 hindsight of market created CDO's destroying the global economy and rewarding their craven soulless creators unfathomable wealth that some one can actually say what you said above and believe it. And believe IS the operative word because an undying belief in unregulated markets in light of the current economy takes blind faith and indoctrination of an extraordinary degree.

    Vangel.... right now everyone in America pretty much works for Goldman Sachs. That's bad enough but do you really think they need you to defend them at this point? Come on break free from your hypnotic stupor and join us in the revolution to take our country back from these terrorist.
  • Vangel
    It's amazing that even with the 20/20 hindsight of market created CDO's destroying the global economy and rewarding their craven soulless creators unfathomable wealth that some one can actually say what you said above and believe it.

    Market created CDOs? What market?

    Rating agencies were protected from competition and from law suits by regulations. You had the mortgage markets dominated by government sponsored entities that were cooking the books in plain sight but had their managers' actions protected by members of Congress that were taking massive amounts of contributions to finance their campaigns. You had a Fed that was busy blowing serial bubbles and promised to bail out risk-takers who failed and a Treasury that suggested to financial companies that the key to surviving was to get too big to fail. You had federal auditors that permitted banks to use leverage that would make hedge fund managers nervous. You had regulations that forced banks to lend to subprime candidates who never could have paid off their loans if the housing market turned. You had government economists painting a cheery picture while the realistic view was left to private sector analysts who were jumping up and down warning of the crisis to come.

    There was no market failure in 2008/2009. What we saw was the inevitable failure of government meddling as predicted by practitioners of the Austrian School of Economics like Marc Faber, Ron Paul, Lou Rockwell, Peter Schiff, Tom Woods, Thomas DiLorenzo, etc., etc., etc.

    And believe IS the operative word because an undying belief in unregulated markets in light of the current economy takes blind faith and indoctrination of an extraordinary degree.

    Unregulated market? Bush increased the number of federal employees by 50% and added more than 14,000 pages to the Federal Register. That is not deregulation and certainly is not an example of a free market. Also keep in mind that in the EU, where there are about as many regulations governing the financial sector, the banks wound up using about double the leverage of their American counterparts.

    Vangel.... right now everyone in America pretty much works for Goldman Sachs.

    Only because people like you favoured a bailout that the libertarians opposed. In a free market system the federal government would not have bailed out Goldman Sachs.

    That's bad enough but do you really think they need you to defend them at this point?

    I am not. You are defending them by arguing that government should have the power to bail out politically connected institutions. In the system that I favour politicians could not grant favours to their banking buddies and risk would not be socialized.

    Come on break free from your hypnotic stupor and join us in the revolution to take our country back from these terrorist.

    Your ignorance of the implications of your own words is astounding. By supporting big government that can save its favourite companies people like you favour robbing taxpayers and consumers. In a free market system politicians would not have the power to help companies like Goldman Sachs commit fraud, write laws that put up barriers to competitors, or use the taxpayer as a piggy bank when their bets go sour.
  • DMonteith
    That is why we need to take politics out of the game...

    So who, exactly, is the utopian here?

    Hint: you can't "take politics out of the game"--politics (loosely defined)is the game.
  • Vangel
    I am not being utopian. I simply point out that in the US the Constitution makes it very possible to take politics out of the game because the federal government has no authority to play the game that it does. If politicians are denied the power to meddle in the economy and to transfer income from one group to another it does not really matter what their personal ideology happens to be because decisions will be left in the hands of the individual and local governments.
  • muirgeo
    my email reply to Scott Winship;


    Your essay is of unintended power and significance. All the country needs to read it with clear eyes.

    You presume that we should be assured that the increased income share didn't go to the top 10% but only to the top 0.5%... as if that should make us feel better.

    That blue in your graph to the left of this reply box is abominable! Massive concentration of wealth among an elite few. That's not what this society/ country is about and I propose it has a dramatic effect on the daily lives of the working class and the economies efficiency as a whole.

    Your argument seems to unintentionally make a great point. That most of the gains didn't go to the top hardworking 10%... They went to a very very small elite few. The country DOES need to know this. It's important for the 99.5% to understand they can work their butts off an expect the wealth their increased productivity created will go NOT to them but to an elite class who sits by the pool side in Majorca collecting dividends.


    Great article... questionable analysis.



    Thanks George Balella
  • Vangel
    "That blue in your graph to the left of this reply box is abominable! Massive concentration of wealth among an elite few."

    Why would you expect anything different? All non-primitive human societies have a high concentration of wealth. No matter which society you look at, you find that the top 20% control about 80% of the wealth. If you look at the distribution of the top 20% you find again that about 20% control 80% of the wealth in the group. Do it again and you find the same thing. This is what power law distributions are about.

    "That's not what this society/ country is about and I propose it has a dramatic effect on the daily lives of the working class and the economies efficiency as a whole."

    That is exactly what this society is about; the ability to keep what one earns. As long as earnings are through voluntary transactions there is no need to do anything about wealth distribution. And to expect anything different is a utopian rejection of human society.
  • DMonteith
    As long as earnings are through voluntary transactions there is no need to do anything about wealth distribution.

    Dude. Wealth distribution is a major determinant of what constitutes voluntary transactions. The fact that some people voluntarily work in sweatshop conditions while others voluntarily gad about the Mediterranean on 200 foot yachts does not imply that there is nothing wrong with the shape of wealth distribution.

    That is exactly what this society is about; the ability to keep what one earns.

    The question here concerns not the "keeping", but the "earning". Determining the proper arrangement of relative returns to the various factors of production is, outside of extreme cases, an inherently normative proposition. As such, to bemoan the political fight (complete with contradictory moral claims) over the question is a blinkered failure to understand human nature.

    All non-primitive human societies have a high concentration of wealth.

    Non-primitive societies have much greater surplus production than do subsistence/primitive societies. Not many people have a problem with an unequal distribution of surpluses. Again, what's at stake here is the definition of "surplus" versus what constitutes basic needs. There's a moral/normative argument that, for instance, some level of access to health care should now be defined as a basic need, not as a surplus good subject to unequal distribution. YMMV, of course, but this kind of discussion does not constitute a rejection of some sort of natural order of things. To argue that it is is just an abdication of the obligation to acknowledge and address countervailing moral claims.
  • Vangel
    "Dude. Wealth distribution is a major determinant of what constitutes voluntary transactions. The fact that some people voluntarily work in sweatshop conditions while others voluntarily gad about the Mediterranean on 200 foot yachts does not imply that there is nothing wrong with the shape of wealth distribution."

    Some people prefer jobs in what you consider sweat shops to other alternatives. There is nothing wrong with voluntary transactions.

    "The question here concerns not the "keeping", but the "earning". Determining the proper arrangement of relative returns to the various factors of production is, outside of extreme cases, an inherently normative proposition. As such, to bemoan the political fight (complete with contradictory moral claims) over the question is a blinkered failure to understand human nature."

    ??? This response shows your confusion about the subject. No matter how you try to spin it, human nature is what it is. There is no new 'Socialist Man' or whatever artificial construction utopian dreamers wish to claim. People are what they are and they respond to incentives in a fairly predictive manner. As long as they earn what they earn in a free market where nobody is permitted to initiate force or commit fraud against anyone else there is no moral argument that can be made against their earnings.

    "Non-primitive societies have much greater surplus production than do subsistence/primitive societies."

    As they should. Non-primitive societies are more productive because of capital accumulation and specialization. We expect such advantages to produce surpluses.

    "Not many people have a problem with an unequal distribution of surpluses. Again, what's at stake here is the definition of "surplus" versus what constitutes basic needs."

    Basic needs? What does that have to do with the topic at hand? Who gets to decide what basic needs are and how they are to be met by individuals? In a society that permits relatively free markets people have no trouble with meeting their basic needs. It is societies that try to plan markets that have trouble with meeting basic needs of their citizens. For a perfect example look at the difference between North and South Korea. The North used to be more developed and richer but after decades of central planning it has become a basket case. The Berlin Wall was not put up to prevent West Germans from escaping to East Germany, where everyone was guaranteed that the government defined 'basic needs' would be met but to prevent the East Germans from escaping to the West, where one was responsible for ensuring that s/he worked hard enough to be able to afford to pay for the family's basic needs.

    "There's a moral/normative argument that, for instance, some level of access to health care should now be defined as a basic need, not as a surplus good subject to unequal distribution."

    If health care were a right that would mean that the government can legitimately take money from some people to pay for the care of others. If that is your argument than why stop there? After all, food is even more critical to one's life. As is shelter. Why not have government confiscate earnings and ensure that everyone has access to exactly the same food and living conditions? You can use the East German or Soviet models to show you exactly how to pull that off.

    For some reason I doubt that most Americans would wish for such programs because the overwhelming majority is quite happy with the choice of food that they can get in the supermarkets and with the choice of housing available. And if the polls are to be trusted, they are happy with their own health care. In one poll that I saw, uninsured Americans claimed to be just as satisfied with the level of health care they get as Canadians. It would be interesting to see how the health care bill goes in the Senate and what the final reconciliation looks like. My guess is that the trillion of increased cost won provide any improvement.

    "YMMV, of course, but this kind of discussion does not constitute a rejection of some sort of natural order of things. To argue that it is is just an abdication of the obligation to acknowledge and address countervailing moral claims."

    Of course it does. The planners want to create a society that does not conform to human nature. All such societies have ended up in tragedy because the fools who ran them overestimated their abilities.
  • DMonteith
    There is no new 'Socialist Man' or whatever artificial construction utopian dreamers wish to claim...The planners want to create a society that does not conform to human nature...ensure that everyone has access to exactly the same food and living conditions...

    Ah. I apologize for interrupting your demolition of that scarecrow. Don't mind me; wank on!
  • Vangel
    "Take away 1 trillion and those 400 hundred would still be fabulously wealthy while the one trillion could buy lots of nurses, doctors, airline mechanics, road builders, jobs, vacations for workers ect ect"

    I think that this is a perfect example of economic ignorance. If rich people knew that their earnings and wealth would be confiscated they would not accumulate capital. That would reduce jobs for nurses, airline mechanics, road builders, etc., etc., etc. The major reason why the Great Depression lasted as long as it did was the popularity of the type of poor economic thinking that you are supporting.
  • muirgeo
    Basically this was all a long winded way of saying this, " It is unlikely that the rise in inequality, then, has had much practical impact on the quality of life of middle-income or poor Americans. "

    Baloney! The top 400 wealthiest have a NAV of 1.5 trillion. The idea that that doesn't effect each and everyones lives is ridiculous.

    Take away 1 trillion and those 400 hundred would still be fabulously wealthy while the one trillion could buy lots of nurses, doctors, airline mechanics, road builders, jobs, vacations for workers ect ect

    This sort of banter is just cheer for a Return of the King. But as always nicely dressed up as deep profound objective writing avoiding the obvious servitude to the lords and masters at Koch.
  • Ken Wabel
    Picture income distribution as a number line fixed at zero at one end and continuing unbounded on the other end. The ratio of the upper 5% band to the lower 5% band will always be increasing, given that the the lower 5% band will always include zero, and a lot of data points very near zero.

    Obviously not a brilliant insight, and a broader observation than the ones made in the essay pointed out in Will's post, but popular discussion of income distribution rarely acknowledges this simple result.
  • sarahrc
    Hunter, you got there first with the point about Bloomberg.

    Discovering that inequality follows the Gates model actually means that it's more harmful from a democratic perspective, I think. The smaller the numbers of the super-rich, the more conceivable it is that they could form a group that colludes in its own interest (regulatory capture, partnerships between gov't and business, no-bid contracts, and the like.)
  • Vangel
    Isn't the problem a system of government that allows politicians to transfer wealth from some to others? In a free market system no collusion would be possible.
  • PaulGree
    Might coastal California's real estate markets have been an example of competitive spending to maintain relative status? Also, what about tuition at feeder schools to the Ivies?
  • Hunter
    "On some level, as long as incomes are rising for everyone, it matters little how much more the Gates’s income is rising."
    On another level, it matters a great deal:
    http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2009/11/0...
  • Vangel
    There would be no danger from wealth inequality if a country was governed by laws rather than men, and laws could not be passed to override individual rights. The trouble in the US is not the inequality of wealth but that it has a system of government in which rights can be violated by politicians and courts that do not respect the protections offered by the Constitution. The solution is not less wealth for the top percent but less power for government to transfer wealth to favoured individuals and organizations.
  • improbable
    This is a good point (about money buying personal power in the "Gates" scenario).

    It's still important, as the article points out, to keep such worries separate from worries about the bottom quartile or the top 5%. Policies helping the former (or hurting the latter) may decrease inequality without solving this problem.
  • improbable
    This is a good point (about money buying personal power in the "Gates" scenario).

    It's still important, as the article points out, to keep such worries separate from worries about the bottom quartile or the top 5%. Policies helping the former (or hurting the latter) may decrease inequality without solving this problem.
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