Comments on: Whereof Game Theory Cannot Speak….

By: James K

James K — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:32:58 +0000

I think importance is ultimately a subjective characteristics that is only meaningful relative to some goal or value system. That means our problems are important to us. They may not be important to some unknown intelligent species out there somewhere (if there are any), but their problems aren't especially important to us so that makes us even.

By: hiramgutierrez

hiramgutierrez — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 03:12:58 +0000

I was reading Some of the comments and I was thinking about how unimportant are our problems to rest of the universe, I mean a comet hits Jupiter that is more inportant on the Galatic Scale Than our worthless problems. What you guys think?

By: hiramgutierrez

hiramgutierrez — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 03:08:33 +0000

Who would I speak too about may theories abot so many things, for example does the Universe have North, South, West and East and if so where do we stand. I know In Dragonball Z they say we are in The North Quatrant but its fantasy and not real so let me show what I am talking about.

1 up

1left 1 right
—————————————Oearth———————————

1 south

So you get North, East, West and South Quatrant. I Know my therioes are Far Out but what is really been bothering is there anything below earth? And If so why ? Would That Mean that the Universie has some sort of Compass? I have 1000's of theroies maybe somebody could derict me to the right place.
Thank You,
Hiram Gutierrez
Cell 915-503-0113

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By: jamesvonderhaar

jamesvonderhaar — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:09:09 +0000

You've opened up a huge can of worms re: less poor Bangladeshis being born improves total welfare. I don't know how utilitarian your approach is, but http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/repugnant-con... should be a decent primer in the thorny issues you can get caught up in when going down that train of thought.

By: John Markley

John Markley — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:11:03 +0000

“Consider the library at Alexandria, which contained much of the ancient world's knowledge but was burned down, causing its contents to be lost to history. Now, I would say that I–as a person living in 2009–value that library far more than any person valued it when it was still around.”

This is a rather poor example, considering that 1. most people in 2009 likely have no idea what the library of Alexandria even was, and would not much care if they did know, and 2. I seriously doubt those of us today who do lament its loss suffer any sort of serious distress from it.

By: Paul_G_Brown

Paul_G_Brown — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:16:10 +0000

Not even in theory?

By: uknowbetter

uknowbetter — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:15:19 +0000

Can governments please wait for 10 more years of warming before doing anything?

The past 10 years have showed a cooling trend while more CO(2) was released. That is a short time period, but it goes against current models and theories. If another 10 years go by without much warming, we may want to hold off on drastic actions.

By: uknowbetter

uknowbetter — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:12:20 +0000

Not according to the non-church goers. To them, you are a bunch of superstitious morons.

By: Matt Frost

Matt Frost — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:08:42 +0000

…and I cringe at the infelicitous, unintended pun in the use of “on his game.” I feel like Exhibit A in avoiding cliches when writing.

By: JR

JR — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:23:16 +0000

interesting analogy, but isn't it a little bit like saying that if your house were burning down, you would save the family heirlooms before you saved your kids?

By: Matt Frost

Matt Frost — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:07:39 +0000

Tom Schelling isn't just a game theorist as people might like to pigeonhole him. He's an omnivorous social scientist who, when he's on his game, has a lot more to offer than “just” what he won the Nobel for.

He is decidedly not on his game in this interview.

By: Paul_G_Brown

Paul_G_Brown — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:33:55 +0000

Why are you looking to a Game Theorist for advice about climate change?

Seriously. The questions you're asking about the natural world...causes of, effects of, nature of climate change ... are best answered and asked by scientists working in the relevant disciplines, where the consensus opinion is that our planet's future looks pretty bleak indeed.

For questions of the economic costs and benefits of various public policy options ... well, there are experts to be consulted here too.

But what can a games theorist contribute to these discussions?

By: thedavidmo

thedavidmo — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:14:13 +0000

One thing that seems to be missing from the generational aspect of things is the fact that future generations are likely to attach different values to things than we do today.

Consider the library at Alexandria, which contained much of the ancient world's knowledge but was burned down, causing its contents to be lost to history. Now, I would say that I–as a person living in 2009–value that library far more than any person valued it when it was still around. If I were to somehow go back in time and become the ruler of Alexandria, decree number one would be diverting resources to making sure the information in that library couldn't be lost. Concerns that would have been of the utmost priority at the time–maintaining order, keeping the Romans from invading, etc.–would come in a distant second on my agenda. All for the simple reason that affairs of state, the quality of life of people–those are all transient things that cease to have value beyond the lifetimes of the people who live them. But knowledge has permanent value–it will be valuable to all of humankind for the rest of history.

The same thing could apply to the current situation. It could be that, hundreds of years from now, people will see the ecological destruction wrought by climate change as a “burning of the library of Alexandria”: all those extinct species gone forever, all those regions geographically altered forever. So even if it would cost excessive amounts of lost GDP, lower quality of life, or even loss of life, it may be that someone from the future, if they ruled in our world today, would heavily favor an outcome in which ecological degradation were minimized.

Now, I don't think that this person from the future would necessarily be making the right decision–but still, I think it's a complication worth thinking about.

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