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	<title>Comments on: Freestyle Jazz Conservatizing</title>
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	<description>The Sweet Release of Reason</description>
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		<title>By: Uncommon Priors &#187; How Jesus Refuted Utilitarianism</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-586319</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncommon Priors &#187; How Jesus Refuted Utilitarianism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (h/t/ Will Wilkinson) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ToddSeavey.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Feuding Political Couples</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584568</link>
		<dc:creator>ToddSeavey.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Feuding Political Couples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] qualities of life such as &#8220;meaningfulness,&#8221; Helen made a counterargument. Will was appalled by it &#8212; and got in some good jokes about not wanting to make Helen suffer, since she likes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] qualities of life such as &#8220;meaningfulness,&#8221; Helen made a counterargument. Will was appalled by it &#8212; and got in some good jokes about not wanting to make Helen suffer, since she likes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Feldman</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584401</link>
		<dc:creator>James Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: &#039;This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more&#039; ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: &#039;You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.&#039; &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;~The Gay Science&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why does your argument sound so much like the Robert Bork analysis of Thomas More, or the Nixon-era arguments that the 60&#039;s counterculture was a result of post-scarcity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: &#39;This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more&#39; &#8230; Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: &#39;You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.&#39; &#8220;</p>
<p>~The Gay Science</p>
<p>Why does your argument sound so much like the Robert Bork analysis of Thomas More, or the Nixon-era arguments that the 60&#39;s counterculture was a result of post-scarcity?</p>
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		<title>By: Cum In My Hole Boss</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584395</link>
		<dc:creator>Cum In My Hole Boss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Freestyle Jazz Conservatizing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bcg</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584370</link>
		<dc:creator>bcg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else could be meant by &quot;springs of action&quot; if not creativity and productivity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else could be meant by &#8220;springs of action&#8221; if not creativity and productivity?</p>
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		<title>By: bcg</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584369</link>
		<dc:creator>bcg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of us trying, earnestly trying, to understand this, can someone provide a link to a discussion about what redemption would be in this context? The word is clearly importing something into this debate that I&#039;m not getting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of us trying, earnestly trying, to understand this, can someone provide a link to a discussion about what redemption would be in this context? The word is clearly importing something into this debate that I&#39;m not getting.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Rittelmeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584368</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen Rittelmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In dipping into Happiness Studies, I&#039;ve seen at least a couple of the studies that prove happy people, chemically speaking, are more likely to produce creative output.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I use the phrase &quot;dipping into&quot; to pay deference to your superior knowledge of the field. On the other hand, judging whether or not the creative output of contentment is any good is my field...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In dipping into Happiness Studies, I&#39;ve seen at least a couple of the studies that prove happy people, chemically speaking, are more likely to produce creative output.</p>
<p>I use the phrase &#8220;dipping into&#8221; to pay deference to your superior knowledge of the field. On the other hand, judging whether or not the creative output of contentment is any good is my field&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584367</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could the Tocqueville point be provably false, when it&#039;s incoherent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could the Tocqueville point be provably false, when it&#39;s incoherent?</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584360</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about the fact that not everyone has had the advantage of a life of privilege.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s about the fact that not everyone has had the advantage of a life of privilege.</p>
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		<title>By: webgrrl</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584358</link>
		<dc:creator>webgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive me, what is the attachment to suffering here? I&#039;m missing it, as I sit here in my plush  bathrobe with a (healthy! i swear it!) glass of red wine. . .What is this hatred of pleasure all about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive me, what is the attachment to suffering here? I&#39;m missing it, as I sit here in my plush  bathrobe with a (healthy! i swear it!) glass of red wine. . .What is this hatred of pleasure all about?</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584357</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely, though, your own assumption that more creativity and productivity are good-- or, more germane, redemptive-- is itself question begging.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely, though, your own assumption that more creativity and productivity are good&#8211; or, more germane, redemptive&#8211; is itself question begging.</p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584330</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you?</p>
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		<title>By: 666</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/11/06/freestyle-jazz-conservatizing/comment-page-1/#comment-584329</link>
		<dc:creator>666</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You look like an elf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You look like an elf.</p>
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