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		<title>By: bb</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/10/24/were-gonna-need-a-montage/comment-page-1/#comment-584135</link>
		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will you tell us after your reading which one do you think is the best one of the articles proposed in the comments?</description>
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		<title>By: Bernhard Aubin</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/10/24/were-gonna-need-a-montage/comment-page-1/#comment-584134</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernhard Aubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a constitutional economics approach:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Corporate social responsibility and the ‘game of catallaxy’: the perspective of constitutional economics&quot;, by Viktor Vanberg.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://hdl.handle.net/10.1007/s10602-007-9022-4&quot;&gt;http://hdl.handle.net/10.1007/s10602-007-9022-4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Abstract  The paper examines the issue of corporate social responsibility (CSR) from the perspective of constitutional economics, focusing on the distinction between a political community’s constitutional choice of the rules of the “market game,” and the market players’ sub-constitutional choice of strategies within these rules. Three versions of CSR-demands are identified and discussed, a “soft,” a “hard”, and a “radical” version. The soft version is concerned with the issue of how “socially responsible” corporations ought to play the market game within existing rules. The hard version is about how the rules of the market ought to be changed in order to induce “socially responsible” corporate behavior. And the radical version questions the compatibility of CSR and the logic of the market game, calling in effect for adopting some alternative economic regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a constitutional economics approach:</p>
<p>&#8220;Corporate social responsibility and the ‘game of catallaxy’: the perspective of constitutional economics&#8221;, by Viktor Vanberg.</p>
<p><a href="http://hdl.handle.net/10.1007/s10602-007-9022-4">http://hdl.handle.net/10.1007/s10602-007-9022-4</a></p>
<p>Abstract  The paper examines the issue of corporate social responsibility (CSR) from the perspective of constitutional economics, focusing on the distinction between a political community’s constitutional choice of the rules of the “market game,” and the market players’ sub-constitutional choice of strategies within these rules. Three versions of CSR-demands are identified and discussed, a “soft,” a “hard”, and a “radical” version. The soft version is concerned with the issue of how “socially responsible” corporations ought to play the market game within existing rules. The hard version is about how the rules of the market ought to be changed in order to induce “socially responsible” corporate behavior. And the radical version questions the compatibility of CSR and the logic of the market game, calling in effect for adopting some alternative economic regime.</p>
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		<title>By: Micha Ghertner</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/10/24/were-gonna-need-a-montage/comment-page-1/#comment-584129</link>
		<dc:creator>Micha Ghertner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a libertarian pro-CSR approach, see Roderick Long&#039;s “&lt;a href=&quot;http://praxeology.net/stakeF04.doc&quot;&gt;Stakeholder Theory for Libertarians: A Rothbardian Defense of Corporate Social Responsibility&lt;/a&gt;.” [.doc]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also see John Hasnas&#039; &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/FreemanFinalDraft.pdf&quot;&gt;The Social Responsibility of Corporations and How to Make It Work for You&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; [.pdf] 44 The Freeman 332 (1994) and &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/Beqrevex.htm&quot;&gt;The Normative Theories of Business Ethics: A Guide for the Perplexed&lt;/a&gt;,&quot; 8 Business Ethics Quarterly 19 (1998) For a .pdf version of that last article, go &lt;a href=&quot;http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/BusinessEthicsFinalDraft.pdf&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My sympathies for having a debate partner with the last name &quot;Crook,&quot; given the proposition and the current economic climate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a libertarian pro-CSR approach, see Roderick Long&#39;s “<a href="http://praxeology.net/stakeF04.doc">Stakeholder Theory for Libertarians: A Rothbardian Defense of Corporate Social Responsibility</a>.” [.doc]</p>
<p>Also see John Hasnas&#39; &#8220;<a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/FreemanFinalDraft.pdf">The Social Responsibility of Corporations and How to Make It Work for You</a>,&#8221; [.pdf] 44 The Freeman 332 (1994) and &#8220;<a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/Beqrevex.htm">The Normative Theories of Business Ethics: A Guide for the Perplexed</a>,&#8221; 8 Business Ethics Quarterly 19 (1998) For a .pdf version of that last article, go <a href="http://faculty.msb.edu/hasnasj/GTWebSite/BusinessEthicsFinalDraft.pdf">here</a>.</p>
<p>My sympathies for having a debate partner with the last name &#8220;Crook,&#8221; given the proposition and the current economic climate.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This link could provide a diverting anecdote for you to entertain the audience with if the debate starts going south   - it&#039;s an example of how business can get itself into trouble in the pursuit of vague notions such as &quot;sustainability&quot;:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/8/18/shell-get-its-knuckles-rapped-foster.aspx&quot;&gt;http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomm...&lt;/a&gt;.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;May the force be with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This link could provide a diverting anecdote for you to entertain the audience with if the debate starts going south   &#8211; it&#39;s an example of how business can get itself into trouble in the pursuit of vague notions such as &#8220;sustainability&#8221;:  <a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2008/8/18/shell-get-its-knuckles-rapped-foster.aspx"></a><a href="http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomm.." rel="nofollow">http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomm..</a>..  </p>
<p>May the force be with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seems like a pretty vague proposition. You could probably win by conceding most of the points the other side is thinking will be the most controversial (e.g., that businesses ought sometimes to engage in philanthropy), and limit the discussion to a narrower set of ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems like a pretty vague proposition. You could probably win by conceding most of the points the other side is thinking will be the most controversial (e.g., that businesses ought sometimes to engage in philanthropy), and limit the discussion to a narrower set of ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: bjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren Buffett  has interesting things to say about corporate philanthropy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1987.html&quot;&gt;www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1987.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;   A recent survey reported that about 50% of major American &lt;br&gt;companies match charitable contributions made by directors &lt;br&gt;(sometimes by a factor of three to one).  In effect, these &lt;br&gt;representatives of the owners direct funds to their favorite &lt;br&gt;charities, and never consult the owners as to their charitable &lt;br&gt;preferences. (I wonder how they would feel if the process were &lt;br&gt;reversed and shareholders could invade the directors&#039; pockets for &lt;br&gt;charities favored by the shareholders.) When A takes money from B &lt;br&gt;to give to C and A is a legislator, the process is called &lt;br&gt;taxation.  But when A is an officer or director of a corporation, &lt;br&gt;it is called philanthropy.  We continue to believe that &lt;br&gt;contributions, aside from those with quite clear direct benefits &lt;br&gt;to the company, should reflect the charitable preferences of &lt;br&gt;owners rather than those of officers and directors. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1993.html&quot;&gt;www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1993.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Berkshire&#039;s practice in respect to discretionary philanthropy &lt;br&gt;- as contrasted to its policies regarding contributions that are &lt;br&gt;clearly related to the company&#039;s business activities - differs &lt;br&gt;significantly from that of other publicly-held corporations.  &lt;br&gt;There, most corporate contributions are made pursuant to the wishes &lt;br&gt;of the CEO (who often will be responding to social pressures), &lt;br&gt;employees (through matching gifts), or directors (through matching &lt;br&gt;gifts or requests they make of the CEO).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     At Berkshire, we believe that the company&#039;s money is the &lt;br&gt;owners&#039; money, just as it would be in a closely-held corporation, &lt;br&gt;partnership, or sole proprietorship.  Therefore, if funds are to be &lt;br&gt;given to causes unrelated to Berkshire&#039;s business activities, it is &lt;br&gt;the charities favored by our owners that should receive them.  &lt;br&gt;We&#039;ve yet to find a CEO who believes he should personally fund the &lt;br&gt;charities favored by his shareholders.  Why, then, should they foot &lt;br&gt;the bill for his picks?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Let me add that our program is easy to administer.  Last fall, &lt;br&gt;for two months, we borrowed one person from National Indemnity to &lt;br&gt;help us implement the instructions that came from our 7,500 &lt;br&gt;registered shareholders.  I&#039;d guess that the average corporate &lt;br&gt;program in which employee gifts are matched incurs far greater &lt;br&gt;administrative costs.  Indeed, our entire corporate overhead is &lt;br&gt;less than half the size of our charitable contributions.  (Charlie, &lt;br&gt;however, insists that I tell you that $1.4 million of our $4.9 million overhead is &lt;br&gt;attributable to our corporate jet, The Indefensible.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Below is a list showing the largest categories to which our &lt;br&gt;shareholders have steered their contributions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     (a) 347 churches and synagogues received 569 gifts&lt;br&gt;     (b) 283 colleges and universities received 670 gifts&lt;br&gt;     (c) 244 K-12 schools (about two-thirds secular, one-&lt;br&gt;         third religious) received 525 gifts&lt;br&gt;     (d) 288 institutions dedicated to art, culture or the &lt;br&gt;         humanities received 447 gifts&lt;br&gt;     (e) 180 religious social-service organizations (split &lt;br&gt;         about equally between Christian and Jewish) received &lt;br&gt;         411 gifts &lt;br&gt;     (f) 445 secular social-service organizations (about 40% &lt;br&gt;         youth-related) received 759 gifts&lt;br&gt;     (g) 153 hospitals received 261 gifts&lt;br&gt;     (h) 186 health-related organizations (American Heart &lt;br&gt;         Association, American Cancer Society, etc.) received &lt;br&gt;         320 gifts&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Three things about this list seem particularly interesting to &lt;br&gt;me.  First, to some degree it indicates what people choose to give &lt;br&gt;money to when they are acting of their own accord, free of pressure &lt;br&gt;from solicitors or emotional appeals from charities.  Second, the &lt;br&gt;contributions programs of publicly-held companies almost never &lt;br&gt;allow gifts to churches and synagogues, yet clearly these &lt;br&gt;institutions are what many shareholders would like to support.  &lt;br&gt;Third, the gifts made by our shareholders display conflicting &lt;br&gt;philosophies:  130 gifts were directed to organizations that &lt;br&gt;believe in making abortions readily available for women and 30 &lt;br&gt;gifts were directed to organizations (other than churches) that &lt;br&gt;discourage or are opposed to abortion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;     Last year I told you that I was thinking of raising the amount &lt;br&gt;that Berkshire shareholders can give under our designated-&lt;br&gt;contributions program and asked for your comments.  We received a &lt;br&gt;few well-written letters opposing the entire idea, on the grounds &lt;br&gt;that it was our job to run the business and not our job to force &lt;br&gt;shareholders into making charitable gifts.  Most of the &lt;br&gt;shareholders responding, however, noted the tax efficiency of the &lt;br&gt;plan and urged us to increase the designated amount.  Several &lt;br&gt;shareholders who have given stock to their children or &lt;br&gt;grandchildren told me that they consider the program a particularly &lt;br&gt;good way to get youngsters thinking at an early age about the &lt;br&gt;subject of giving.  These people, in other words, perceive the &lt;br&gt;program to be an educational, as well as philanthropic, tool.  The &lt;br&gt;bottom line is that we did raise the amount in 1993, from $8 per &lt;br&gt;share to $10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren Buffett  has interesting things to say about corporate philanthropy. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1987.html">http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1987.html</a></p>
<p>   A recent survey reported that about 50% of major American <br />companies match charitable contributions made by directors <br />(sometimes by a factor of three to one).  In effect, these <br />representatives of the owners direct funds to their favorite <br />charities, and never consult the owners as to their charitable <br />preferences. (I wonder how they would feel if the process were <br />reversed and shareholders could invade the directors&#39; pockets for <br />charities favored by the shareholders.) When A takes money from B <br />to give to C and A is a legislator, the process is called <br />taxation.  But when A is an officer or director of a corporation, <br />it is called philanthropy.  We continue to believe that <br />contributions, aside from those with quite clear direct benefits <br />to the company, should reflect the charitable preferences of <br />owners rather than those of officers and directors. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1993.html">http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1993.html</a></p>
<p> Berkshire&#39;s practice in respect to discretionary philanthropy <br />- as contrasted to its policies regarding contributions that are <br />clearly related to the company&#39;s business activities &#8211; differs <br />significantly from that of other publicly-held corporations.  <br />There, most corporate contributions are made pursuant to the wishes <br />of the CEO (who often will be responding to social pressures), <br />employees (through matching gifts), or directors (through matching <br />gifts or requests they make of the CEO).</p>
<p>     At Berkshire, we believe that the company&#39;s money is the <br />owners&#39; money, just as it would be in a closely-held corporation, <br />partnership, or sole proprietorship.  Therefore, if funds are to be <br />given to causes unrelated to Berkshire&#39;s business activities, it is <br />the charities favored by our owners that should receive them.  <br />We&#39;ve yet to find a CEO who believes he should personally fund the <br />charities favored by his shareholders.  Why, then, should they foot <br />the bill for his picks?</p>
<p>     Let me add that our program is easy to administer.  Last fall, <br />for two months, we borrowed one person from National Indemnity to <br />help us implement the instructions that came from our 7,500 <br />registered shareholders.  I&#39;d guess that the average corporate <br />program in which employee gifts are matched incurs far greater <br />administrative costs.  Indeed, our entire corporate overhead is <br />less than half the size of our charitable contributions.  (Charlie, <br />however, insists that I tell you that $1.4 million of our $4.9 million overhead is <br />attributable to our corporate jet, The Indefensible.)</p>
<p>     Below is a list showing the largest categories to which our <br />shareholders have steered their contributions.</p>
<p>     (a) 347 churches and synagogues received 569 gifts<br />     (b) 283 colleges and universities received 670 gifts<br />     (c) 244 K-12 schools (about two-thirds secular, one-<br />         third religious) received 525 gifts<br />     (d) 288 institutions dedicated to art, culture or the <br />         humanities received 447 gifts<br />     (e) 180 religious social-service organizations (split <br />         about equally between Christian and Jewish) received <br />         411 gifts <br />     (f) 445 secular social-service organizations (about 40% <br />         youth-related) received 759 gifts<br />     (g) 153 hospitals received 261 gifts<br />     (h) 186 health-related organizations (American Heart <br />         Association, American Cancer Society, etc.) received <br />         320 gifts</p>
<p>     Three things about this list seem particularly interesting to <br />me.  First, to some degree it indicates what people choose to give <br />money to when they are acting of their own accord, free of pressure <br />from solicitors or emotional appeals from charities.  Second, the <br />contributions programs of publicly-held companies almost never <br />allow gifts to churches and synagogues, yet clearly these <br />institutions are what many shareholders would like to support.  <br />Third, the gifts made by our shareholders display conflicting <br />philosophies:  130 gifts were directed to organizations that <br />believe in making abortions readily available for women and 30 <br />gifts were directed to organizations (other than churches) that <br />discourage or are opposed to abortion.</p>
<p>     Last year I told you that I was thinking of raising the amount <br />that Berkshire shareholders can give under our designated-<br />contributions program and asked for your comments.  We received a <br />few well-written letters opposing the entire idea, on the grounds <br />that it was our job to run the business and not our job to force <br />shareholders into making charitable gifts.  Most of the <br />shareholders responding, however, noted the tax efficiency of the <br />plan and urged us to increase the designated amount.  Several <br />shareholders who have given stock to their children or <br />grandchildren told me that they consider the program a particularly <br />good way to get youngsters thinking at an early age about the <br />subject of giving.  These people, in other words, perceive the <br />program to be an educational, as well as philanthropic, tool.  The <br />bottom line is that we did raise the amount in 1993, from $8 per <br />share to $10.</p>
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		<title>By: webgrrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>webgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll want to research both sides for the best arguments: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cceia.org/resources/video/data/000061&quot;&gt;When Principles Pay&lt;/a&gt; is the new hot book on the one side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;ll want to research both sides for the best arguments: <a href="http://www.cceia.org/resources/video/data/000061">When Principles Pay</a> is the new hot book on the one side.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Knowledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Knowledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me say that I love that scene in Rocky IV.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The link to the Economist debate goes to YouTube, I think that is an error.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the CSR debate, a lot of it comes down to how you handle externalities.   Those that don&#039;t believe in CSR believe that the government should handle them and businesses should just play by the rules that the government sets. Those that do believe in CSR think that corporations (which really means investors, employees and customers) should &quot;internalize the externalities&quot; and deal with them directly even if that means lower profits, lower salaries or higher prices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Two posts you might find helpful: &lt;a href=&quot;http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com/2008/07/economist-doesnt-get-csr.html&quot;&gt;The Economist Doesn&#039;t Get CSR&lt;/a&gt; and the investment section of &lt;a href=&quot;http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com/2007/10/buddhist-economics.html#investing&quot;&gt;Buddhist Economics&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me say that I love that scene in Rocky IV.  </p>
<p>The link to the Economist debate goes to YouTube, I think that is an error.</p>
<p>On the CSR debate, a lot of it comes down to how you handle externalities.   Those that don&#39;t believe in CSR believe that the government should handle them and businesses should just play by the rules that the government sets. Those that do believe in CSR think that corporations (which really means investors, employees and customers) should &#8220;internalize the externalities&#8221; and deal with them directly even if that means lower profits, lower salaries or higher prices.</p>
<p>Two posts you might find helpful: <a href="http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com/2008/07/economist-doesnt-get-csr.html">The Economist Doesn&#39;t Get CSR</a> and the investment section of <a href="http://fatknowledge.blogspot.com/2007/10/buddhist-economics.html#investing">Buddhist Economics</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: GilM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GilM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, of course, there&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Seg0JE1PM&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;choral version&lt;/a&gt; of Friedman on CSR and school choice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, of course there&#039;s lots of stuff by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.professorbainbridge.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt; Stephen Bainbridge&lt;/a&gt;.  Including &lt;a href=&quot;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=308604&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;this paper&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, of course, there&#39;s the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Seg0JE1PM" target="_blank">choral version</a> of Friedman on CSR and school choice.</p>
<p>And, of course there&#39;s lots of stuff by <a href="http://www.professorbainbridge.com/" target="_blank"> Stephen Bainbridge</a>.  Including <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=308604" target="_blank">this paper</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a big Milton Friedman fan, but I think that he&#039;s just plain wrong on this. The last sentence of &lt;a href=&quot;http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/corporate_social_responsibilit.php&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; by Matthew Yglesias captures the best objection: &quot;the &#039;strong&#039; anti-CSR position outlined by Milton Friedman and others doesn&#039;t make much sense and actually seems blind to the non-coercive genius of capitalism.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He links to &lt;a href=&quot;http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/06/a-remark-on-fri.html&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; by Brad DeLong, which is also very good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m a big Milton Friedman fan, but I think that he&#39;s just plain wrong on this. The last sentence of <a href="http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/corporate_social_responsibilit.php">this post</a> by Matthew Yglesias captures the best objection: &#8220;the &#39;strong&#39; anti-CSR position outlined by Milton Friedman and others doesn&#39;t make much sense and actually seems blind to the non-coercive genius of capitalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>He links to <a href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/06/a-remark-on-fri.html">this post</a> by Brad DeLong, which is also very good.</p>
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		<title>By: GU</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/10/24/were-gonna-need-a-montage/comment-page-1/#comment-584083</link>
		<dc:creator>GU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to read some academic scholarship on CSR, &lt;i&gt;Corporate Social Responsibility through an Economic Lens&lt;/i&gt; by Reinhardt, Stavins &amp; Vietor is a great place to start.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP08-023&quot;&gt;http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.ns...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to read some academic scholarship on CSR, <i>Corporate Social Responsibility through an Economic Lens</i> by Reinhardt, Stavins &#038; Vietor is a great place to start.  </p>
<p><a href="http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP08-023"></a><a href="http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.ns.." rel="nofollow">http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.ns..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: GU</title>
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		<dc:creator>GU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milton Friedman:  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertarians/issues/friedman-soc-resp-business.html&quot;&gt;http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertari...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It should be noted that most corporations have listed in their charters, the mission of maximizing profits for their shareholders.  Non-profitable CSR (e.g. charitable giving) would seem to directly violate the corporate charter.  The &quot;business judgment rule&quot; prevents directors and management from being liable for such indiscretions though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milton Friedman:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertarians/issues/friedman-soc-resp-business.html"></a><a href="http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertari.." rel="nofollow">http://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/libertari..</a>.</p>
<p>It should be noted that most corporations have listed in their charters, the mission of maximizing profits for their shareholders.  Non-profitable CSR (e.g. charitable giving) would seem to directly violate the corporate charter.  The &#8220;business judgment rule&#8221; prevents directors and management from being liable for such indiscretions though.</p>
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		<title>By: GilM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GilM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/news/show/32239.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; &quot;debate&quot; from Reason three years ago among Milton Friedman, John Mackey, and T.J. Rodgers is probably worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/32239.html" target="_blank">This</a> &#8220;debate&#8221; from Reason three years ago among Milton Friedman, John Mackey, and T.J. Rodgers is probably worth checking out.</p>
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