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		<title>By: BROOKE SHIELDS SUNGLASSES</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/07/13/bundles-of-oy/comment-page-1/#comment-592071</link>
		<dc:creator>BROOKE SHIELDS SUNGLASSES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 02:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parents and his/her children must have good relationship..&lt;br&gt;But of course.. No relationship is perfect.. I think communication is the key..</description>
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		<title>By: cb3000</title>
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		<dc:creator>cb3000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. The bliss that it brings is utterly unexplainable. Sure parenthood is a daunting and energy expending task, but watching your kids grow into their fruitful selves is priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. The bliss that it brings is utterly unexplainable. Sure parenthood is a daunting and energy expending task, but watching your kids grow into their fruitful selves is priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Discreet </title>
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		<dc:creator>Discreet </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beginning of parenthood and watching your kids grow brings in an immeasurable amount of happiness. And what&#039;s even better is studies such as this one persists on making the happiness consistent. But of course, it is always up to us if we are up to the task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beginning of parenthood and watching your kids grow brings in an immeasurable amount of happiness. And what&#39;s even better is studies such as this one persists on making the happiness consistent. But of course, it is always up to us if we are up to the task.</p>
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		<title>By: Vibrator Sex Toys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vibrator Sex Toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The beginning of parenthood and watching your kids grow brings in an immeasurable amount of happiness. And what&#039;s even better is studies such as this one persists on making the happiness consistent. But of course, it is always up to us if we are up to the task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The beginning of parenthood and watching your kids grow brings in an immeasurable amount of happiness. And what&#39;s even better is studies such as this one persists on making the happiness consistent. But of course, it is always up to us if we are up to the task.</p>
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		<title>By: SLR Camera</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLR Camera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s such a counterintuitive finding because we have these cultural beliefs that children are the key to happiness and a healthy life.;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s such a counterintuitive finding because we have these cultural beliefs that children are the key to happiness and a healthy life.;)</p>
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		<title>By: classical music</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/07/13/bundles-of-oy/comment-page-1/#comment-591219</link>
		<dc:creator>classical music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you did a great job with  tis post of yours, keep up the good work</description>
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		<title>By: classical music</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/07/13/bundles-of-oy/comment-page-1/#comment-591218</link>
		<dc:creator>classical music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post contains fruitful knowledge, thank you so much for posting this one, you are indeed a helpful person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post contains fruitful knowledge, thank you so much for posting this one, you are indeed a helpful person.</p>
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		<title>By: automated equipment design</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/07/13/bundles-of-oy/comment-page-1/#comment-591196</link>
		<dc:creator>automated equipment design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that tests and courses created by and given by experienced and successful parents, teachers, nurses, daycare workers, doctors, social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists, family counsellors, police officers, etc. would have to be taken in order to ensure that the parents are truly able for the job, because as we know, parenthood is not just a task to toy with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that tests and courses created by and given by experienced and successful parents, teachers, nurses, daycare workers, doctors, social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists, family counsellors, police officers, etc. would have to be taken in order to ensure that the parents are truly able for the job, because as we know, parenthood is not just a task to toy with.</p>
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		<title>By: chastity devices</title>
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		<dc:creator>chastity devices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure there are more unconstrained time for those who have no kids, as well as frequent adventures such as kinky sex and the likes, but there are certain tradeoffs to having kids, and they are priceless, such as the unexplainable grace and pride felt by the parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure there are more unconstrained time for those who have no kids, as well as frequent adventures such as kinky sex and the likes, but there are certain tradeoffs to having kids, and they are priceless, such as the unexplainable grace and pride felt by the parents.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaska Adoption</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaska Adoption</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is great for parents and children as well.. I can relate in the topic.. Most children doesn&#039;t appreciate their parent&#039;s sacrifices they don&#039;t know their parents are getting hurt.. Parents are great they giving all we need, taking care of us so love our parents and never hurt them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is great for parents and children as well.. I can relate in the topic.. Most children doesn&#39;t appreciate their parent&#39;s sacrifices they don&#39;t know their parents are getting hurt.. Parents are great they giving all we need, taking care of us so love our parents and never hurt them.</p>
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		<title>By: freestyle</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/07/13/bundles-of-oy/comment-page-1/#comment-590596</link>
		<dc:creator>freestyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 14:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, I totally agree with you on this, I am quite aware of such tradeoffs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, I totally agree with you on this, I am quite aware of such tradeoffs!</p>
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		<title>By: organic baby toys</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/07/13/bundles-of-oy/comment-page-1/#comment-584220</link>
		<dc:creator>organic baby toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to childes give up the   happiness &lt;br&gt;to giving  toys  and   share  the &lt;br&gt;all those things   the kid &lt;br&gt;grow up in  natural way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to childes give up the   happiness <br />to giving  toys  and   share  the <br />all those things   the kid <br />grow up in  natural way</p>
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		<title>By: The Confabulum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t Breed, Be Happy?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Confabulum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t Breed, Be Happy?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has argued that the proposition that having and raising children makes you happier is a noble lie; Will Wilkinson has argued, erm, not so [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has argued that the proposition that having and raising children makes you happier is a noble lie; Will Wilkinson has argued, erm, not so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see you apply your happiness acumen not to the decision to-have or not-to-have kids, but to this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/the-other-home-equity-crisis/&quot;&gt;http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/the-...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d like to see you apply your happiness acumen not to the decision to-have or not-to-have kids, but to this:<br /><a href="http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/the-other-home-equity-crisis/"></a><a href="http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/the-.." rel="nofollow">http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/24/the-..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: JerrySteinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>JerrySteinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that it&#039;s a matter of (to coin a phrase) &quot;different strokes for different folks,&quot; and that different lifestyles make different people happy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My wife and I are in our 60s, and all of our kids have four legs (two dogs and a cat). We have absolutely no regrets about not having children, whatsoever, and wouldn&#039;t change a thing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just wish society would tell teenagers the truth (the &quot;dark side of the moon&quot; as I often call it) about parenthood. Give them ALL the information, and let them make an EDUCATED decision whether or not to have kids. Instead, we seem to glorify parenthood, and kids fall -- unthinkingly -- into it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At least, if they knew what they were in for, they wouldn&#039;t be so shocked when it hit them. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many parents are shocked when they discover that their infants don’t keep the same wake-sleep schedule that they’re used to; that their toddlers have a propensity for finding ways to hurt themselves the moment the parent looks the other way; that their teenagers are not the sweet, obedient, gentle, respectful children they used to be; that, despite lectures to the contrary, their teenagers are still quite curious (and cavalier) about tobacco, alcohol, and other drugs; that their teenagers have “no fear” when they are behind the wheel of a car, diving into dangerous waters, or committing a crime. They are perplexed about proper nutrition of children of all ages, and discipline seems to frustrate most parents. They are also stunned when they discover how much time, energy and money are required to raise a child properly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am convinced that there should be a “LICENSE TO PARENT.” Courses and tests (both theoretical and practical), created by and given by experienced and successful parents, teachers, nurses, daycare workers, doctors, social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists, family counsellors, police officers, etc. would have to be taken, with at least 80% needed to pass in order to receive your License To Parent (could you justify any less?). Such courses should be mandatory in every high school in the country. Even though, in a democracy, we can’t really prevent people from making babies irresponsibly, such courses would, at the very least, make people more informed, more responsible, and possibly less likely to make babies without sufficient forethought. It might even convince a few people that parenthood wasn’t right for them, and would save them, their potential children, and society at large from the catastrophic consequences of poor parenting. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Parenting is a serious responsibility. It is the hardest job in the world to do, yet it&#039;s the easiest job to get -- no education, no training, no experience with kids (of any age), no tests, no interviews, no probation period, no periodic evaluations, and hardly any risk of being fired. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is the most irrevocable decision one will ever make in one’s life. It should be seen as a privilege, not a right -- it shouldn’t be automatic or accidental, and it should certainly not be taken lightly. Children are too precious to be created without making a careful, conscious decision about them. Unfortunately, creating a child takes very little effort and even less intelligence. To be a good parent, however, is to achieve one of the most difficult and important goals of modern life. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More time should be spent considering children than conceiving them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jerry Steinberg&lt;br&gt;Founding Non-Father of NO KIDDING!&lt;br&gt;The international social club for childless and childfree couples and singles&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nokidding.net;&quot;&gt;www.nokidding.net;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:info@nokidding.net&quot;&gt;info@nokidding.net&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that it&#39;s a matter of (to coin a phrase) &#8220;different strokes for different folks,&#8221; and that different lifestyles make different people happy.</p>
<p>My wife and I are in our 60s, and all of our kids have four legs (two dogs and a cat). We have absolutely no regrets about not having children, whatsoever, and wouldn&#39;t change a thing.</p>
<p>I just wish society would tell teenagers the truth (the &#8220;dark side of the moon&#8221; as I often call it) about parenthood. Give them ALL the information, and let them make an EDUCATED decision whether or not to have kids. Instead, we seem to glorify parenthood, and kids fall &#8212; unthinkingly &#8212; into it.</p>
<p>At least, if they knew what they were in for, they wouldn&#39;t be so shocked when it hit them. </p>
<p>Many parents are shocked when they discover that their infants don’t keep the same wake-sleep schedule that they’re used to; that their toddlers have a propensity for finding ways to hurt themselves the moment the parent looks the other way; that their teenagers are not the sweet, obedient, gentle, respectful children they used to be; that, despite lectures to the contrary, their teenagers are still quite curious (and cavalier) about tobacco, alcohol, and other drugs; that their teenagers have “no fear” when they are behind the wheel of a car, diving into dangerous waters, or committing a crime. They are perplexed about proper nutrition of children of all ages, and discipline seems to frustrate most parents. They are also stunned when they discover how much time, energy and money are required to raise a child properly.</p>
<p>I am convinced that there should be a “LICENSE TO PARENT.” Courses and tests (both theoretical and practical), created by and given by experienced and successful parents, teachers, nurses, daycare workers, doctors, social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists, family counsellors, police officers, etc. would have to be taken, with at least 80% needed to pass in order to receive your License To Parent (could you justify any less?). Such courses should be mandatory in every high school in the country. Even though, in a democracy, we can’t really prevent people from making babies irresponsibly, such courses would, at the very least, make people more informed, more responsible, and possibly less likely to make babies without sufficient forethought. It might even convince a few people that parenthood wasn’t right for them, and would save them, their potential children, and society at large from the catastrophic consequences of poor parenting. </p>
<p>Parenting is a serious responsibility. It is the hardest job in the world to do, yet it&#39;s the easiest job to get &#8212; no education, no training, no experience with kids (of any age), no tests, no interviews, no probation period, no periodic evaluations, and hardly any risk of being fired. </p>
<p>It is the most irrevocable decision one will ever make in one’s life. It should be seen as a privilege, not a right &#8212; it shouldn’t be automatic or accidental, and it should certainly not be taken lightly. Children are too precious to be created without making a careful, conscious decision about them. Unfortunately, creating a child takes very little effort and even less intelligence. To be a good parent, however, is to achieve one of the most difficult and important goals of modern life. </p>
<p>More time should be spent considering children than conceiving them.</p>
<p>Jerry Steinberg<br />Founding Non-Father of NO KIDDING!<br />The international social club for childless and childfree couples and singles<br /><a href="http://www.nokidding.net;"></a><a href="http://www.nokidding.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.nokidding.net</a>; <a href="mailto:info@nokidding.net">info@nokidding.net</a></p>
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