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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the article in this site. To the topic, many people voluntarily apply insurance for losses on cars and their homes, but it is not possible to buy lifetime health insurance which would allow us to predictably pay a bit out of our income as opposed to risking that your life will be shortened from the lack of good care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the article in this site. To the topic, many people voluntarily apply insurance for losses on cars and their homes, but it is not possible to buy lifetime health insurance which would allow us to predictably pay a bit out of our income as opposed to risking that your life will be shortened from the lack of good care.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Rainer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Rainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the article is awsome</description>
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		<title>By: Jose C Davda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose C Davda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your blog is really great! 353</description>
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		<title>By: liberal jobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal jobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] difficulties facing today??s consumer, Americans overwhelmingly ?? by 84% to 13% ?? prefer thathttp://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/06/28/americans-hate-redistribution/Justice Department Politicization Reflects Bush Policy NPRAll Things Considered , June 26, 2008 ? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] difficulties facing today??s consumer, Americans overwhelmingly ?? by 84% to 13% ?? prefer thathttp://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/06/28/americans-hate-redistribution/Justice Department Politicization Reflects Bush Policy NPRAll Things Considered , June 26, 2008 ? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Smart Money Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tuesday News and Views</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Smart Money Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tuesday News and Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Redistribution of wealth? American&#8217;s hate it. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Isaac Chotiner put it best at TNR&#039;s The Plank:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See below for some real polling analysis from Nate, but this Gallup poll, which is being cited by Andrew and others on the web, is so ridiculously worded that people should ignore it completely (after reading this post, of course). The question is as follows:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    Which approach should government focus on to fix the economy?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here are the two possible answers:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    1. Take steps to distribute wealth more evenly among Americans. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    2. Take steps to improve overall economic conditions and the job situation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In other words, should the government fix the economy by:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    1. Distributing wealth more evenly&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    2. Fixing the economy &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The results were, not surprisingly, 84%-13%, with option #2 coming out ahead.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--Isaac Chotiner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Isaac Chotiner put it best at TNR&#39;s The Plank:</p>
<p>See below for some real polling analysis from Nate, but this Gallup poll, which is being cited by Andrew and others on the web, is so ridiculously worded that people should ignore it completely (after reading this post, of course). The question is as follows:</p>
<p>    Which approach should government focus on to fix the economy?</p>
<p>Here are the two possible answers:</p>
<p>    1. Take steps to distribute wealth more evenly among Americans. </p>
<p>    2. Take steps to improve overall economic conditions and the job situation. </p>
<p>In other words, should the government fix the economy by:</p>
<p>    1. Distributing wealth more evenly</p>
<p>    2. Fixing the economy </p>
<p>The results were, not surprisingly, 84%-13%, with option #2 coming out ahead.</p>
<p>&#8211;Isaac Chotiner</p>
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		<title>By: Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Things Heard: e24v1</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/06/28/americans-hate-redistribution/comment-page-1/#comment-581415</link>
		<dc:creator>Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Things Heard: e24v1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A survey which is &#8220;not even close&#8221; which may impact the election. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pseudo-Polymath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Monday Highlights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pseudo-Polymath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Monday Highlights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A survey which is &#8220;not even close&#8221; which may impact the election. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may sound like a silly question, but has it been determined that incomes are more equal in Europe (if they are) because of government actions (by which I mean the social welfare state)?  As I understand it, income figures in the US are almost always stated pre-tax, and almost always pre-redistribution payments from the government.  If it&#039;s the same for European statistics, can what government policies are making pre-government influenced income more equal in Europe than in the US?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound like a silly question, but has it been determined that incomes are more equal in Europe (if they are) because of government actions (by which I mean the social welfare state)?  As I understand it, income figures in the US are almost always stated pre-tax, and almost always pre-redistribution payments from the government.  If it&#39;s the same for European statistics, can what government policies are making pre-government influenced income more equal in Europe than in the US?</p>
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		<title>By: WaltFrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>WaltFrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it was Robt Schiller who has made a great case for looking at health insurance (among many others) not as income redistribution but rather as risk management.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At birth, an individual has no idea what possible serious illnesses s/he might be especially prone to; many of those diseases shorten one&#039;s working life which can make getting insured care impossible and create obvious pre-existing conditions that prohibit individual insurance, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many people voluntarily buy insurance for losses on cars and their homes, but it is not possible to buy lifetime health insurance which would allow us to predictably pay a bit (a fair bit, actually) out of our income as opposed to risking that your life will be shortened from the lack of good care.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many of us would also wish that for our children, too. There&#039;s no way all but the wealthiest could set aside enough money to provide lifetime treatment for an unlikely but fabulously expensive illness. So right now, we all take some chance and the various local hospitals provide whatever emergency services out of the pockets of others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, you can frame this as socialized medicine or a societal risk management choice that individuals, given the chance, make all the time to best provide for their family&#039;s well being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it was Robt Schiller who has made a great case for looking at health insurance (among many others) not as income redistribution but rather as risk management.</p>
<p>At birth, an individual has no idea what possible serious illnesses s/he might be especially prone to; many of those diseases shorten one&#39;s working life which can make getting insured care impossible and create obvious pre-existing conditions that prohibit individual insurance, too.</p>
<p>Many people voluntarily buy insurance for losses on cars and their homes, but it is not possible to buy lifetime health insurance which would allow us to predictably pay a bit (a fair bit, actually) out of our income as opposed to risking that your life will be shortened from the lack of good care.</p>
<p>Many of us would also wish that for our children, too. There&#39;s no way all but the wealthiest could set aside enough money to provide lifetime treatment for an unlikely but fabulously expensive illness. So right now, we all take some chance and the various local hospitals provide whatever emergency services out of the pockets of others.</p>
<p>Again, you can frame this as socialized medicine or a societal risk management choice that individuals, given the chance, make all the time to best provide for their family&#39;s well being.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday links: bear market blues &#171; Abnormal Returns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday links: bear market blues &#171; Abnormal Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;People often wonder why income inequality is so much higher in the U.S. than in other rich liberal democracies. In a nutshell, the preferences of American voters is why.&#8221;  (Will Wilkinson) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;People often wonder why income inequality is so much higher in the U.S. than in other rich liberal democracies. In a nutshell, the preferences of American voters is why.&#8221;  (Will Wilkinson) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Americans love jobs and improving economic conditions&quot; would be a more accurate (though less sexy) post title.  Wealth redistribution couldn&#039;t top that in a head-to-head forced choice, but I doubt that other relatively narrow economic agendas (like something related to taxes or trade, from either side of the issue) would poll much better if you pitted it against a good economy with good jobs.  And it&#039;s not like policymakers actually have to choose between the two alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Americans love jobs and improving economic conditions&#8221; would be a more accurate (though less sexy) post title.  Wealth redistribution couldn&#39;t top that in a head-to-head forced choice, but I doubt that other relatively narrow economic agendas (like something related to taxes or trade, from either side of the issue) would poll much better if you pitted it against a good economy with good jobs.  And it&#39;s not like policymakers actually have to choose between the two alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Dain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Likewise, most Americans want universal health care not because it will be a handout, they fully expect to pay for it through their taxes...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You sure about that? Americans are notoriously conflicted about what they want and what they are willing to pay for. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;True, I think UH would make it easier to switch jobs, but that&#039;s only because currently the law favors employee provided care. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More efficient and reliable? Don&#039;t know about that. Are all forms of nominal &quot;streamlining&quot; necessarily efficient? And rationing and reliability don&#039;t often go hand in hand. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We should be breaking down cartels, not solidifying them further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Likewise, most Americans want universal health care not because it will be a handout, they fully expect to pay for it through their taxes&#8230;</i></p>
<p>You sure about that? Americans are notoriously conflicted about what they want and what they are willing to pay for. </p>
<p>True, I think UH would make it easier to switch jobs, but that&#39;s only because currently the law favors employee provided care. </p>
<p>More efficient and reliable? Don&#39;t know about that. Are all forms of nominal &#8220;streamlining&#8221; necessarily efficient? And rationing and reliability don&#39;t often go hand in hand. </p>
<p>We should be breaking down cartels, not solidifying them further.</p>
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		<title>By: muirgeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>muirgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the two questions kinda poorly worded. Mostly because most steps to improve the economy will also  decrease inequality. In other words its not a choice of either or.... the governement needs to do both as they are complimentary in most cases.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So for instance George W Bush made most of his money by seizing private property using eminant domain and via a tax increase on local citizens used to build and run a stadium for the Texas Rangers. One could argue that such government policies transfer wealth from one group to another.  And further most people do NOT support the government from doing so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So if the government pased laws preventing using eminant domain for personal profit and if they passed laws against taxing citizen to subsidize private businesses I think such actions would both distribute wealth more evenly and improve the economy. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the answer to the questions is that the government should do BOTH.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other answer is that most Americans DON&#039;T want handouts they just want a level playing field. Likewise, most Americans want universal health care not because it will be a handout, they fully expect to pay for it through their taxes, they just want it because it will be more efficient and reliable and will increase their freedom to move from one job to another or to return to more training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the two questions kinda poorly worded. Mostly because most steps to improve the economy will also  decrease inequality. In other words its not a choice of either or&#8230;. the governement needs to do both as they are complimentary in most cases.</p>
<p>So for instance George W Bush made most of his money by seizing private property using eminant domain and via a tax increase on local citizens used to build and run a stadium for the Texas Rangers. One could argue that such government policies transfer wealth from one group to another.  And further most people do NOT support the government from doing so.</p>
<p>So if the government pased laws preventing using eminant domain for personal profit and if they passed laws against taxing citizen to subsidize private businesses I think such actions would both distribute wealth more evenly and improve the economy. </p>
<p>So the answer to the questions is that the government should do BOTH.</p>
<p>The other answer is that most Americans DON&#39;T want handouts they just want a level playing field. Likewise, most Americans want universal health care not because it will be a handout, they fully expect to pay for it through their taxes, they just want it because it will be more efficient and reliable and will increase their freedom to move from one job to another or to return to more training.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Weininger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Weininger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social Security supports Will&#039;s point, though, because it&#039;s not clear it reduces inequality significantly, if at all. It&#039;s funded by a regressive tax that does nothing to the highest incomes, it gives higher benefits to those who need them less, and rich people die later than poor people so they get benefits for longer. Note the thesis here is *not* the obviously false &quot;the public is not sympathetic to the welfare state&quot; (I wish!) but rather &quot;the public is not sympathetic to policies designed to reduce inequality&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social Security supports Will&#39;s point, though, because it&#39;s not clear it reduces inequality significantly, if at all. It&#39;s funded by a regressive tax that does nothing to the highest incomes, it gives higher benefits to those who need them less, and rich people die later than poor people so they get benefits for longer. Note the thesis here is *not* the obviously false &#8220;the public is not sympathetic to the welfare state&#8221; (I wish!) but rather &#8220;the public is not sympathetic to policies designed to reduce inequality&#8221;.</p>
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