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	<description>The Sweet Release of Reason</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579247</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's right John. I was waiting for this, but I was starting to think it would never come, so thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right John. I was waiting for this, but I was starting to think it would never come, so thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579246</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;You just got caught in the middle, Iowa, and I’ll always love you.&lt;/em&gt;

But not the way you love your parents, and not in a particularlist way because it's your home state, right Will?  Only incidentally and faithlessly will you "always love" it, right?  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You just got caught in the middle, Iowa, and I’ll always love you.</em></p>
<p>But not the way you love your parents, and not in a particularlist way because it&#8217;s your home state, right Will?  Only incidentally and faithlessly will you &#8220;always love&#8221; it, right?  <img src='http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: muirgeo</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579193</link>
		<dc:creator>muirgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"But six long years of drought have taken a toll, reducing Australia’s rice crop by 98 percent and leading to the mothballing of the mill last December."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/business/worldbusiness/17warm.html?hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But six long years of drought have taken a toll, reducing Australia’s rice crop by 98 percent and leading to the mothballing of the mill last December.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/business/worldbusiness/17warm.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/business/worldbusiness/17warm.html?hp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Micha Ghertner</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579184</link>
		<dc:creator>Micha Ghertner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Further, “many of the upheavals over food prices abroad have concerned rice and wheat, neither of which is used as a biofuel.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And both of which are substitutes for corn, which is used as a biofuel. An increase in demand for one leads to an increase in demand for the others, and so too prices.

I see your knowledge of rudimentary economics hasn't improved much since you quit commenting at Cafe Hayek, muirgeo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Further, “many of the upheavals over food prices abroad have concerned rice and wheat, neither of which is used as a biofuel.”</p></blockquote>
<p>And both of which are substitutes for corn, which is used as a biofuel. An increase in demand for one leads to an increase in demand for the others, and so too prices.</p>
<p>I see your knowledge of rudimentary economics hasn&#8217;t improved much since you quit commenting at Cafe Hayek, muirgeo.</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579181</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He then &lt;a HREF="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/11/27/iowans_bring_a_special_interest_agenda_to_caucuses/" rel="nofollow"&gt;went down in the Iowa polls&lt;/a&gt; after criticizing ethanol subsidies at the conference, while insisting that he though that happy ethanol could become successful without subsidies if subsidies for oil and other fuels, "alternative" and not, were removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He then <a HREF="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/11/27/iowans_bring_a_special_interest_agenda_to_caucuses/" rel="nofollow">went down in the Iowa polls</a> after criticizing ethanol subsidies at the conference, while insisting that he though that happy ethanol could become successful without subsidies if subsidies for oil and other fuels, &#8220;alternative&#8221; and not, were removed.</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579179</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a bit unfair on McCain's "flip-flop."  In the same speech he said that ethanol didn't make sense at $20 a barrel but "made sense at $80 a barrel," he also said it should still be done without mandates or subsidies.  &lt;a HREF="http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2007/12/10/daily42.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Plent of references&lt;/a&gt; to that at the time.  He repeated that in &lt;a HREF="http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/05b932cd-b2e4-4863-a22f-6b84c893121a.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;several speeches&lt;/a&gt; in Iowa itself.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, that means no ethanol subsidies. But it also means no rifle-shot tax breaks for big oil. It means no line items for hydrogen, no mandates for other renewable fuels, and no big-government debacles like the Dakotas Synfuels plant. It means ethanol entrepreneurs get a level playing field to make their case -- and earn their profits.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He said that in Ames, Iowa, in November 2007 before the caucus, before a conference on "growing the bioeconomy" (which I must assume is a euphemism for Iowans interested in corn ethanol.)

I don't think that there's anything unreasonable in saying, "Ethanol may make sense now with higher oil prices, but that should be demonstrated without subsidies."  Personally I think that the evidence shows that ethanol still isn't worth it, but I'd be happy to let the market decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a bit unfair on McCain&#8217;s &#8220;flip-flop.&#8221;  In the same speech he said that ethanol didn&#8217;t make sense at $20 a barrel but &#8220;made sense at $80 a barrel,&#8221; he also said it should still be done without mandates or subsidies.  <a HREF="http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2007/12/10/daily42.html" rel="nofollow">Plent of references</a> to that at the time.  He repeated that in <a HREF="http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/Speeches/05b932cd-b2e4-4863-a22f-6b84c893121a.htm" rel="nofollow">several speeches</a> in Iowa itself.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes, that means no ethanol subsidies. But it also means no rifle-shot tax breaks for big oil. It means no line items for hydrogen, no mandates for other renewable fuels, and no big-government debacles like the Dakotas Synfuels plant. It means ethanol entrepreneurs get a level playing field to make their case &#8212; and earn their profits.</p></blockquote>
<p>He said that in Ames, Iowa, in November 2007 before the caucus, before a conference on &#8220;growing the bioeconomy&#8221; (which I must assume is a euphemism for Iowans interested in corn ethanol.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that there&#8217;s anything unreasonable in saying, &#8220;Ethanol may make sense now with higher oil prices, but that should be demonstrated without subsidies.&#8221;  Personally I think that the evidence shows that ethanol still isn&#8217;t worth it, but I&#8217;d be happy to let the market decide.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert S. Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579177</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert S. Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My home and current province, Saskatchewan, has always had the proper distinction of being the "breadbasket of the world." I demand an apology! I feel bitter! Where's my gun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My home and current province, Saskatchewan, has always had the proper distinction of being the &#8220;breadbasket of the world.&#8221; I demand an apology! I feel bitter! Where&#8217;s my gun?</p>
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		<title>By: muirgeo</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579174</link>
		<dc:creator>muirgeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this really all about Biofuels and subsidies?


"Work by the International Food Policy Research Institute in Washington suggests that biofuel production accounts for a quarter to a third of the recent increase in global commodity prices."

Further, "many of the upheavals over food prices abroad have concerned rice and wheat, neither of which is used as a biofuel."


Like the housing bubble is there a part being played by the Wall Street speculators and paper pushes foisting yet another bubble onto the world, this time in commodities. I have to wonder. 


http://iht.com/articles/2008/04/15/business/15food.php?page=2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really all about Biofuels and subsidies?</p>
<p>&#8220;Work by the International Food Policy Research Institute in Washington suggests that biofuel production accounts for a quarter to a third of the recent increase in global commodity prices.&#8221;</p>
<p>Further, &#8220;many of the upheavals over food prices abroad have concerned rice and wheat, neither of which is used as a biofuel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like the housing bubble is there a part being played by the Wall Street speculators and paper pushes foisting yet another bubble onto the world, this time in commodities. I have to wonder. </p>
<p><a href="http://iht.com/articles/2008/04/15/business/15food.php?page=2" rel="nofollow">http://iht.com/articles/2008/04/15/business/15food.php?page=2</a></p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2008/04/23/a-corny-story/#comment-579170</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice commentary on a still-undercovered issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice commentary on a still-undercovered issue.</p>
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