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		<title>By: We’re Terribly Czarry &#124; Think Tank West</title>
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		<dc:creator>We’re Terribly Czarry &#124; Think Tank West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it seems Glenn Beck is out to do their work for them. Say what you will about the tenets of &#8220;libertarian paternalism,&#8221; but at least it&#8217;s an ethos that would demand a far lighter touch on markets than the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it seems Glenn Beck is out to do their work for them. Say what you will about the tenets of &ldquo;libertarian paternalism,&rdquo; but at least it&rsquo;s an ethos that would demand a far lighter touch on markets than the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: medical_malpractice_attorney</title>
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		<dc:creator>medical_malpractice_attorney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so interested! Where can I find more like this?</description>
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		<title>By: classical music</title>
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		<dc:creator>classical music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many talented architecture now a days, creating all those pretty architectural buildings and establishments. Even though the designs are attractive they must be sure that this buildings can last for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many talented architecture now a days, creating all those pretty architectural buildings and establishments. Even though the designs are attractive they must be sure that this buildings can last for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dining Room</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dining Room</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well design of restaurants, schools and hotels really matters.. But what really matter is their service, facilities and how good their furniture&#039;s are.. In a restaurant smoking shouldn&#039;t be permitted..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well design of restaurants, schools and hotels really matters.. But what really matter is their service, facilities and how good their furniture&#39;s are.. In a restaurant smoking shouldn&#39;t be permitted..</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel P Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel P Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Julie A Frazier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie A Frazier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>god blesss your blog :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>god blesss your blog <img src='http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: sandra0493</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandra0493</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article!, grats for u site :)</description>
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		<title>By: Cass Sunstein, OIRA, and nudging &#171; Knowledge Problem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cass Sunstein, OIRA, and nudging &#171; Knowledge Problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for a person than another outcome. This is old territory that has been covered elsewhere, including this April post from Will Wilkinson, so I will stop here, except for one observation: just because we face cognitive limitations to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for a person than another outcome. This is old territory that has been covered elsewhere, including this April post from Will Wilkinson, so I will stop here, except for one observation: just because we face cognitive limitations to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A number of people in blog discussions raised the question of just how libertarian, in several respects, libertarian paternalism is. I don&#039;t know Thaler, but Cass Sunstein is an ex-colleague, so I asked him--both about the freedom to choose of private choice architects and about rolling back current non-libertarian paternalist policies. A summary of his response, written by me then amended by him:

Yes, private choice architects should have freedom of choice. Some, but not necessarily all, current paternalist measures should be rolled back; in particular the book explicitly supports school vouchers and freedom of contract to allow doctors and patients to contract around medical malpractice liability.

My conclusion is that although Cass is not currently a hard core libertarian, his position is libertarian in the weaker sense that adds up to 10-15% of the electorate--he wants less (but not necessarily zero) government compulsion in both economic and social matters than now exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of people in blog discussions raised the question of just how libertarian, in several respects, libertarian paternalism is. I don&#8217;t know Thaler, but Cass Sunstein is an ex-colleague, so I asked him&#8211;both about the freedom to choose of private choice architects and about rolling back current non-libertarian paternalist policies. A summary of his response, written by me then amended by him:</p>
<p>Yes, private choice architects should have freedom of choice. Some, but not necessarily all, current paternalist measures should be rolled back; in particular the book explicitly supports school vouchers and freedom of contract to allow doctors and patients to contract around medical malpractice liability.</p>
<p>My conclusion is that although Cass is not currently a hard core libertarian, his position is libertarian in the weaker sense that adds up to 10-15% of the electorate&#8211;he wants less (but not necessarily zero) government compulsion in both economic and social matters than now exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Revisiting Libertarian Paternalism &#171; The Ego Chronicles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revisiting Libertarian Paternalism &#171; The Ego Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Will Wilkinson / The Fly Bottle » Blog Archive » The Hazards of “Libertarian Paternalism” and ...   The thing is, we often rightly resent their attempts to manipulate us, but at least we are more or less in control of our exposure to such people. But when choice architecture is implemented politically, we cannot opt out of these attempts at manipulation, attempts which may or may not be benign. That’s a big problem because political choice architecture may do a great deal to shape us, even if, in its “libertarian paternalist” incarnation, it makes a show of leaving the ultimate choice open to individuals. For example, I would object if President John McCain implemented a policy of opt-out national service because such a policy would communicate all-too-clearly that individuals need some kind of special justification or rationale not to serve the state. The default rule itself contains meaningful content. If allowed to stand, such a policy could shape norms and individual preferences in a direction antagonistic to the value of autonomy. Soon enough we might find ourselves asking, “Why should you be able to opt out at all?” The paternalistic nudge may “leave the choice open” but accepting the legitimacy of certain nudges may imperil liberty. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Will Wilkinson / The Fly Bottle » Blog Archive » The Hazards of “Libertarian Paternalism” and &#8230;   The thing is, we often rightly resent their attempts to manipulate us, but at least we are more or less in control of our exposure to such people. But when choice architecture is implemented politically, we cannot opt out of these attempts at manipulation, attempts which may or may not be benign. That’s a big problem because political choice architecture may do a great deal to shape us, even if, in its “libertarian paternalist” incarnation, it makes a show of leaving the ultimate choice open to individuals. For example, I would object if President John McCain implemented a policy of opt-out national service because such a policy would communicate all-too-clearly that individuals need some kind of special justification or rationale not to serve the state. The default rule itself contains meaningful content. If allowed to stand, such a policy could shape norms and individual preferences in a direction antagonistic to the value of autonomy. Soon enough we might find ourselves asking, “Why should you be able to opt out at all?” The paternalistic nudge may “leave the choice open” but accepting the legitimacy of certain nudges may imperil liberty. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, to clarify:
The phrase &quot;toward personal responsibility&quot; in my post above is not meant to read &quot;away from collective responsibility,&quot; but rather &quot;away from blame/victim mentality&quot; (or in practical terms, &quot;away from legalisticity&quot;).  I do not believe that the social safety net is the essential cause for personal irresponsibility in this country, and I would not accept such a position as part of an authentically deep/shallow choice architecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, to clarify:<br />
The phrase &#8220;toward personal responsibility&#8221; in my post above is not meant to read &#8220;away from collective responsibility,&#8221; but rather &#8220;away from blame/victim mentality&#8221; (or in practical terms, &#8220;away from legalisticity&#8221;).  I do not believe that the social safety net is the essential cause for personal irresponsibility in this country, and I would not accept such a position as part of an authentically deep/shallow choice architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal advocacy of paternalistic libertarianism is more in product design and space design, rather than in institutional sociology &amp; socioeconomics. That said, I do agree that government will always be irresponsible in its political nudges to the left or to the right, and therefore should not be further empowered along these lines, even in the name of so-called liberty or even true liberty. (See PATRIOT ACT.)

However, there does exist the practical possibility of a self-interested government that would use nudges not for left/right political purposes but rather to enhance the civility or livability of society in a way that would be essentially unobjectionable. By this I mean that the nudged choices would serve every citizen&#039;s interest as well as the government&#039;s interest, in both the long term and short term, without harmful externalities, all while strengthening the constitution. An example might be a campaign of nudged choice toward personal responsibility.

In sum: I find it inadequate, and in fact counterproductive, to restrict to a left/right axis the discussion of the shortcomings of paternalistic libertarianism as a political tool.  Improving society and livability are not essentially left/right propositions, they are shallow/deep propositions, and such are precisely the forte of choice architecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal advocacy of paternalistic libertarianism is more in product design and space design, rather than in institutional sociology &amp; socioeconomics. That said, I do agree that government will always be irresponsible in its political nudges to the left or to the right, and therefore should not be further empowered along these lines, even in the name of so-called liberty or even true liberty. (See PATRIOT ACT.)</p>
<p>However, there does exist the practical possibility of a self-interested government that would use nudges not for left/right political purposes but rather to enhance the civility or livability of society in a way that would be essentially unobjectionable. By this I mean that the nudged choices would serve every citizen&#8217;s interest as well as the government&#8217;s interest, in both the long term and short term, without harmful externalities, all while strengthening the constitution. An example might be a campaign of nudged choice toward personal responsibility.</p>
<p>In sum: I find it inadequate, and in fact counterproductive, to restrict to a left/right axis the discussion of the shortcomings of paternalistic libertarianism as a political tool.  Improving society and livability are not essentially left/right propositions, they are shallow/deep propositions, and such are precisely the forte of choice architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POints well taken, but I would much prefer a libertarian paternalismn along these lines than a tax and subsidy structure, a prohibition or mandate approach, or whatever else has been come up with thus far.  I thihnk once you allow for people having judgment biases (which seems to be the case), and admit that the government in a democracy is always going to be trying to mess with people&#039;S business (which also seems to be the case), a libertarian paternalism is really the best you can hope for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POints well taken, but I would much prefer a libertarian paternalismn along these lines than a tax and subsidy structure, a prohibition or mandate approach, or whatever else has been come up with thus far.  I thihnk once you allow for people having judgment biases (which seems to be the case), and admit that the government in a democracy is always going to be trying to mess with people&#8217;S business (which also seems to be the case), a libertarian paternalism is really the best you can hope for.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Light</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally a tool is only as good as the workman who wields it, but that said I think Libertarian Paternalism could be a good tool.

I&#039;d like to be able to presume that a restaurant will be smoke-free, or at least have a smoke-free section, unless a sign outside clearly states &quot;Smoking allowed here.&quot;  That is, I&#039;d like smoke-free dining to be the default, but I also strenuously oppose laws preventing restaurants from allowing their patrons to smoke.  What I mostly want is to know what to expect before I enter a smoke-filled room.

Similarly, there are plenty of people who have no financial acumen whatsoever.  Coming up with some good savings plans and implementing them by default will save *everyone* a great deal of grief down the line - but allowing choices will allow this *with* financial acumen to manage their money for themselves.

There are many choices that we make every day, and frequently we are not well informed.  I, for one, would like to know that the food I eat has passed muster as safe without having to examine the background of every item I eat - but I don&#039;t want to prevent those who want it from drinking fresh, non-pasteurized milk, or eating rare meat, or the like.  With a default system in place I could go to a restaurant and know that the food had passed quality control without having to specifically inquire, if the restaurant were required to inform patrons of any dishes that did not meet those standards.  Those interested and knowledgeable could seek out other means of insuring that their food is safe, while ignorant folk like myself could just eat.  Same way with prescription drugs.  Surely that would be preferable to our current one-size-fits-all regulation.

Naturally we need to have discussions about what the defaults should be, and perhaps even a rule that if a plurality of the public makes a different choice, it should become the new default.  Likewise we would have to guard against implicit bullying and the de facto denial of opting out (which I have seen in the military where it is theoretically possible but practically impossible to opt out of life insurance) - but even so, this could be a powerful tool in derailing calls for mandatory programs and requirements.

As others have said, if the authors would not support this system to replace much of what we already have, it is probably a ruse - but I think the idea itself is sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally a tool is only as good as the workman who wields it, but that said I think Libertarian Paternalism could be a good tool.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to be able to presume that a restaurant will be smoke-free, or at least have a smoke-free section, unless a sign outside clearly states &#8220;Smoking allowed here.&#8221;  That is, I&#8217;d like smoke-free dining to be the default, but I also strenuously oppose laws preventing restaurants from allowing their patrons to smoke.  What I mostly want is to know what to expect before I enter a smoke-filled room.</p>
<p>Similarly, there are plenty of people who have no financial acumen whatsoever.  Coming up with some good savings plans and implementing them by default will save *everyone* a great deal of grief down the line &#8211; but allowing choices will allow this *with* financial acumen to manage their money for themselves.</p>
<p>There are many choices that we make every day, and frequently we are not well informed.  I, for one, would like to know that the food I eat has passed muster as safe without having to examine the background of every item I eat &#8211; but I don&#8217;t want to prevent those who want it from drinking fresh, non-pasteurized milk, or eating rare meat, or the like.  With a default system in place I could go to a restaurant and know that the food had passed quality control without having to specifically inquire, if the restaurant were required to inform patrons of any dishes that did not meet those standards.  Those interested and knowledgeable could seek out other means of insuring that their food is safe, while ignorant folk like myself could just eat.  Same way with prescription drugs.  Surely that would be preferable to our current one-size-fits-all regulation.</p>
<p>Naturally we need to have discussions about what the defaults should be, and perhaps even a rule that if a plurality of the public makes a different choice, it should become the new default.  Likewise we would have to guard against implicit bullying and the de facto denial of opting out (which I have seen in the military where it is theoretically possible but practically impossible to opt out of life insurance) &#8211; but even so, this could be a powerful tool in derailing calls for mandatory programs and requirements.</p>
<p>As others have said, if the authors would not support this system to replace much of what we already have, it is probably a ruse &#8211; but I think the idea itself is sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Better Choices &#171; Matt Zeitlin: Impetuous Young Whippersnapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Better Choices &#171; Matt Zeitlin: Impetuous Young Whippersnapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Matt Zeitlin on April 3, 2008  I think Will Wilkinson is getting a bit too excited in his criticism of Cass Sunstein and Richard Thaler&#8217;s libertarian [...]</description>
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