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Yuval Levin on Haidt

I have a lot of objections to Yuval Levin’s Haidt post at NRO. Both Ross and Andrew Sullivan seemed to have been impressed. So let’s look closer:

I think Haidt’s thesis and book are fascinating, but suffer from the general tendency of modern science to turn the study of the nature of something into a study of the history of that thing.

Hmm…. This sounds to me like Levin thinks Haidt’s work suffers from studying its subject in the right way. Post-Darwin, we understand that the nature of an animal is the consequence of the history of its lineage. Humans are animals and the human moral sense is a part of our evolved nature. Studying the natural history of the moral sense is almost the only truly illuminating way to study it. It’s a whole lot better than simply trying to tease out the implications of our moral judgments from the first-person perspective — from the “inside” — and I say that as someone who has spent a huge amount of time employed in the process of reflective equilibration. I’d say Levin’s post suffers from the general tendency of conservatives to do a lot of handwaving about what’s wrong with real science in the attempt to preserve a sense of the authority of our moral judgments — and a sense of the legitimacy of the social order built around them — in the face of the scientific evidence for their biological and cultural contingency.

More:

Not everything about our moral life can be rationalized, because important pieces of it derive from (and serve) the complicated set of moral obligations that arise out of our unchosen social relations. No one chooses to be born into the world, and no one chooses into which family and country to be born, but these unchosen relations nonetheless impose inescapable moral obligations on us.

This straightforwardly begs the question. Haidt’s whole program has to do with explaining cultural variations regarding which perceived obligations arise from our unchosen social relations. Levin seems to want to think that there is some external fact about what the obligations of our social relations are. But the theory under discussion is precisely that both (a) social structure and (b) the sense of moral obligation experienced by those embedded within it depends on the culturally variable settings on the five posited dimensions of the moral sense. These settings not only change from place to place, but also change over time. That’s part of the theory. So what’s wrong with the theory?

My sense is that there has been a huge shift in the cultural consensus in the West about, say, the autonomy parents owe their grown and even adolescent children, and, conversely, the obedience and material assistance grown children owe their parents. You probably wouldn’t be a conservative if you witnessed such a change in norms and failed to diagnose it as a failure of people to meet the “inescapable obligations” that arise from their unchosen social relations. If you were to accept the mutability of these obligations, it would be pretty hard to characterized them as inescapable. Once we no longer feel an obligation’s normative gravity, we stop believing that it has any. And an obligation whose normative pull no one feels stop being considered an obligation. When it stops being considered an obligation, the pattern of individual behavior changes, and, ipso facto, the society is changed. For conservatives, this kind of social change comes as one moral crisis after another. When we in fact arrive at a better place after the change, as we generally do, the conservative mostly just makes peace with it while insisting that we all panic about the next moral shift, which will surely bring down all of society along with it.

Part of what it means to have a thoroughly liberal moral sense, in Haidt’s terms, is to see the claims of ingroup solidarity as weak and easily defeated by competing considerations. For example, this liberal finds the claim, implicit in much of the immigration debate, that I ought to heavily discount the welfare gains to non-citizens simply because they belong to a different national coalition morally abhorrent. I don’t doubt that many people take themselves to have an “inescapable” moral obligation to treat outsiders unfairly, or to even positively harm them (even kill them!), if it redounds to the benefits insiders. But I deny that there is any such obligation to escape in the first place. Haidt’s theory is extremely illuminating because it explains in part how heated cultural and political conflict can flow from opinions that evidently incompatible, but all of which are distinctively “moral” in character. Many of Levin’s claims, such as the claim that “some of our most important obligations—particularly those in the family—remain unchosen yet binding and essential” fail entirely to engage Haidt’s thesis about the underpinnings of variation in moral judgment and sound like little more than hollow, if pious, exhortation.
Levin:

This means we have one way of moralizing—the contractual way—which makes for more freedom and justice but has nothing to say to the deepest truths of our human experience (and therefore can dangerously distort our society); and we have another—the one grounded in continuity and generation—that helps us make sense of our place in the world but cares too little about avoidable injustices. The first is highly artificial, and so is also better suited to highly rational and verbal defenses. The second is highly sentimental—it is geared to those areas of our life about which we have the least explicit knowledge and so can say the least—so it sometimes expresses itself in unspoken shudders more than organized arguments. This leaves it at a great disadvantage in our time, of course.

No. The “contractual way” of moralizing is no less (or more) sentimental, nor is it more (or less) artificial. That is one of Haidt’s central points. All the calibrations of the moral sentiments are calibrations of the moral sentiments. All the dimensions of sentiment naturally evolved. All the calibrations of those setting are conventional and culture-bound. I’m not surprised that Levin, who worked under Leon Kass at the President’s Council on Bioethics, wants to defend the normative authority of our “unspoken shudders.” But I do think Levin is right that the liberal dimensions of the moral sense are uniquely amenable to defense by rational argument, which is no doubt why liberalism is part of our rationalist Enlightenment heritage — why the societies that most value reason are also liberal societies and contain the least suffering and oppression. Levin wants to defend the shudder when it comes to, say, cloning, but (I trust) not when it comes to the subhuman treatment of the Dalits. So, those of us armed with reason inevitably ask: “What’s the difference?” And he doesn’t have a good answer. Which is why, once we hit a certain threshold of sensitivity to harm and injustice, we just keep on getting more and more liberal, despite the best efforts of folks like Levin to get us to see our prejudices as “inescapable” and “essential.”

8 Responses to “Yuval Levin on Haidt”

  1. Selfreferencing
    September 24th, 2007 21:09
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    Will,

    Hi. A philosophy graduate student here who follows your blog.

    I have to quibble a bit. When Levin claims that Haidt runs together the history of a faculty with its nature, I think what he means is that Haidt runs together the origin of a faculty with its truth-reliability.

    If he means this, then I understand the point. We cannot suppose that our moral judgments are unreliable merely because they have evolved in such and such a way. Our ‘ick’ judgments may yet be valid!

    The obvious reply is to suggest that evolutionary history alone gives us no reason to suppose that our ‘ick’ judgments track any good-makers or right-makers. But oh dear, Will, I worry if this is your reply. For what reason do we have to think that evolutionary history alone gives us any reason to think that moral-judgments-as-such track any right-makers? It seems very little, at least to my mind.

    Furthermore, Levin might (if he gets this deep into the issues) appeal to God to account for the truth-reliability of our ‘icks’. I wonder what you’d say then besides denying that God exists.

    (Incidentally, I think that evolutionary history alone gives us very little reason to suppose that *any* of our judgments are truth-reliable. See Plantinga here.)

    Of course, you’re a constructivist though, right? So you rule out the very possibility of a morality outside of a rational construction. The ‘tracking’ issue won’t apply to you. Or perhaps to Haidt and others. My understanding is that most of the big cognitive scientists who work in this area are either constructivists or moral nihilists of some form or another (error theorists (Josh Greene is an error theorist), expressivists (although you might deny expressivism is a nihilism)).

    But if this is so, and Haidt and others are mostly constructivists anyway, then Levin can’t accuse them of running metaethics and science together. There’s the science and then there’s the metaethics. However, I think he has a point IF what he’s saying is that the cognitive science alone does not entail a metaethical thesis (as Haidt and others sometimes seem to imply). You give the distinct impression that you think it does when you say:

    “Studying the natural history of the moral sense is almost the only truly illuminating way to study it. It’s a whole lot better than simply trying to tease out the implications of our moral judgments from the first-person perspective — from the inside.”

    Sorry for the ramble.

  2. alphie
    September 25th, 2007 03:06
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    Have the “moral” obligations between parents and children changed so much?

    Technology and increased wealth have probably more to do with the changes in, say, child labor laws and elder care than changing morals.

    It’s still not cool to let your elderly parents starve if you’re making a good living, is it?

  3. Eunomia · Up From Constructivism
    September 25th, 2007 15:43
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    [...] It’s enough to make you despair for your “national coalition,” also known as a [...]

  4. Mike S.
    September 25th, 2007 19:50
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    Levin wants to defend the shudder when it comes to, say, cloning, but (I trust) not when it comes to the subhuman treatment of the Dalits. So, those of us armed with reason inevitably ask: “What’s the difference?” And he doesn’t have a good answer.

    I don’t think Levin or Kass want to “defend the shudder” in the sense that they reify the “shudder” into some sort of moral imperative. They merely want us to pay attention when there is widespread instinctive resistance to some novel behavior. The idea that there is no good answer to the question “what’s the difference between the ’shudder’ some people feel towards cloning, on the one hand, and towards touching the Dalits, on the other, is preposterous. The same rational argument applies to both: human beings are ends, not means, by virtue of their rational nature, and therefore should be treated accordingly. In the case of human clones, this means not creating them merely to destroy them, or merely to fulfill the will of the person creating the clone in the case where the clone is brought to full term. In the case of the Dalits, it means that the Dalits are the same type of moral, rational being as the upper castes, and therefore ought to be treated the same. In the former case, the shudder points to a moral truth that can be rationally defended; in the latter, it points to a moral falsehood.

  5. Mike S.
    September 25th, 2007 19:58
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    When we in fact arrive at a better place after the change, as we generally do, the conservative mostly just makes peace with it while insisting that we all panic about the next moral shift, which will surely bring down all of society along with it.

    This is meaningless without specifics. We are better off with the changed views about discrimination based on race. But are we really better off with the current consensus that sex outside of marriage is acceptable, even something to be celebrated? Well, adults who like indulging their sexual urges have more fun, but the large numbers of children without two parents, and the teenagers pushed into sexual activity before they are emotionally ready, aren’t really better off. It’s fatuous to claim that all changes in moral consensus are beneficial.

  6. Jannia
    September 26th, 2007 02:55
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    Aha!

    I’ve been reading discussions of Haidt on blogs all over recently, and Levin’s commentary keeps coming up, and I’ve been dissatisfied every time I’ve seen it, but haven’t had the time to really sit down and figure out why, and here you come and do it for me.

  7. Matt McIntosh
    September 26th, 2007 15:38
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    OT, but if Will is willing to take posting requests I have one for him: Bryan Caplan is having a lively exchange with Greg Clark over at EconLog, and they seem to be bumping up against Parfitesque issues. To my the best of my recollection I don’t think Will has ever commented on the mere addition paradox or non-identity problem, but I’d like to see what he thinks!

  8. Drake
    September 26th, 2007 18:46
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    Very nice.

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