Comments on: I’m Grateful to Have This Chance to Say Something about Gratitude

By: You should be grateful « Unfair Internships

You should be grateful « Unfair Internships — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:54:45 +0000

[...] should be grateful Darn, I missed this CATO posting more than a year ago. Listen kids, Will Wilkinson is reminding you of an important lesson in life: [...]

By: ExIntern

ExIntern — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:39:00 +0000

Sorry, I’m late to thee party with my question: If you’re so grateful for your job, should it also be unpaid then?

By: john haley

john haley — Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:11:07 +0000

I think you’re right on the money here, Will. I was 100% grateful for my internship at the Cato institute. It may seem silly, but interning for Cato was one of the most renumerative experiences I’ve ever had. I made good friends, learned tons about the job market and WDC, and gained a sense of pride and self respect from working at a place that I believed in.

Internships are great opportunities.

By: Solomon Grundy

Solomon Grundy — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 07:58:55 +0000

Hm.

Your point about gratitude is at most trivially true.

Also, you lose track of the definitions of your terms. For example, you use multiple, conflicting definitions of internship in ways that confuse your argument.

Finally, as the commenter above noted, you misrepresent AK, if not downright misunderstand her.

I’m no fan of AK, but I was not impressed by this critique.

However, as an unrelated musing on “prestige intellectual work,” you make some good points. You also get some things empirically wrong (based on my experience, at least). For instance, it’s not really an Ivy game, it’s a Harvard/Yale/Princeton game. Often only Harvard or Yale.

By: BillKorner

BillKorner — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 05:50:48 +0000

K was pointing out that people without savings can’t take unpaid internships unless they can borrow to do so and, therefore, that candidates for our various internships will not be representative of the vast majority of Americans.

Totally valid worry! Most students can’t budget three months of loan money for a quarter internship. I couldn’t have if CATO were not a paid internship when I was there. (My absence, I must point out, would have been a grave loss to the mission of the CATO institute.)

K’s worry is analytically different from the complaint that Northern Iowa State is underrepresented at The Limo Liberal Institute compared to Harwich University. It so happens that more Harwich undergrads have the resources to take an unpaid internship. But the Limo Liberals don’t prefer Harwich students for their internships BECAUSE they can afford to take those internships. You may think that Harwich students really are more meritorious than the Northern Iowa State ones. But a 100% meritorious Harwich applicant might be unable to afford to accept the internship that a rich 10% meritorious NIS applicant could. So K can have a point even if you do believe that Ivy Schools take the most meritorious applicants.

By: Robin Schramm

Robin Schramm — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 20:56:09 +0000

Internships are great opportunities.

By: Peter

Peter — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:41:08 +0000

Yes, yes, and yes.