Hot Philosophy Action at Cato Unbound

by Will Wilkinson on March 21, 2006

The informal blog discussion has kicked off at Cato Unbound! In response to David Schmidtz’s blog reply to the formal reply essays, Peter Singer, evidently unimpressed by the whole point of Tom Palmer’s essay, writes

Why should we assume that sellers have the right to get as much as the market will bear? Two families acquire similar looking acreages of Texas grazing lands. One is fortunate: their land has oil beneath the surface and they become fabulously wealthy. The other is unfortunate: their land has no oil, and despite working as hard as their neighbors, and applying similar intelligence, they remain poor. What gives the former “a right” to their wealth? In my view, nothing. We believe in an inherent right to property because we believe that somehow rugged individuals living in a state of nature can acquire and retain wealth. That is nonsense, of course. Oil would have little value if society did not provide the infrastructure that enables us to use it. Wealth does not exist without society, and the security that society provides.

So instead of asking what gets us to the conclusion that “we have a right” to interfere with market mechanisms, why not ask, instead: “Would interfering with market mechanisms make people, on the whole and in the long run, better off?”

Schmidtz replies:

Peter Singer says, “Oil would have little value if society did not provide the infrastructure that enables us to use it. Wealth does not exist without society, and the security that society provides.” I agree, and I believe in providing that security. Perhaps that leads to a point about inequality. But it seems more obviously to lead to a point about property rights. Suppose we substituted “property rights” for “society” in Singer’s sentence. It would seem to be a more precise way of making Singer’s point, but perhaps he has something else in mind.

Later, I liked this very Schmidtzean passage:

It occurs to me that when I read a newspaper, I get the impression that it is wildly unsafe to drive a car, or more generally, to leave the house at all. It’s also unsafe to stay at home. I get the impression that normal people get shot at every day, unless they get run over by a drunk driver first. I also read in the newspaper that people are starving, and that to have the income of a graduate student is to be utterly desperate. I get the impression that I and everyone I know are the lone exceptions to the rule that people are desperately short of the means of looking after themselves. Every time a newspaper reports a plane crash, people overestimate the odds of plane crashes for a while. Anyway, my impression is that inequality is news, where equality isn’t. Just a thought. How much do you know from personal experience about how much worse it is to be relatively poor these days, compared to, say, fifty years ago?

Expect more today from Hacker, and, let’s hope, from the globetrotting Tom G. Palmer. Check it out. And blog about it!

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    That final passage by Schmitz is odd, because it doesn't seem to be about inequality, just about danger. But the crime rate is much higher today than 50 years ago, and I believe that mainly falls on the poor. This is probably an example of inequality of wealth leading to inequality of political power.
  • What Singer misses is that the universe of property rights & markets that matches the goods of sellers with eager buyers (and the vague attentions of buyers with sellers' perishable inventory), itself has a product: Hope & Creativity. Without either of which the human spirit (or whatever term materialists like to use talk about that reality) sickens and collapses, as the Marxists say, "alienated" to the max.

    Schmidtz' redefinition is a sort of micro-advancement of the argument. But it is an advancement over "society," a term that makes me nervously finger a small, self-defense-oriented handbag revolver.
  • Matt
    I hope Schmidtz is joking or making some sort of purely rhetorical point about what impression he gets when he reads the paper, since that would be a pretty dumb impression to get. Maybe the papers in souther arizona are much worse than average, but you'd have to read a lot in to an average paper story, or be an idiot, to get that impression. This makes me wonder if he's being serious, and if not, why I should bother to read his reply in more depth.
  • Robert Schwartz
    The Andy Kauffman of philosophy strikes again.
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