Hey Rocky, Watch Me Pull Utilitarianism Out of This (and Every) Hat!

by Will Wilkinson on July 17, 2005

Brad DeLong writes, rather mysteriously, that Julian’s parentalism piece “confirms his utilitarianism. convinces me that I would be insane were I to prioritize liberty over utility: that I am right to be a utilitarian.” He quotes Julian at length and then says:

My mind explodes when I read Julian’s command to “take as least as much satisfaction in the feeling of responsibility for our choices, in knowing that we have shaped a life that is ours even when we have chosen badly.” It is the libertarian version of the old communist story:

Speaker: After the revolution we will all eat strawberries and cream.

Worker: But I don’t like strawberries and cream!

Speaker: After the revolution you will eat strawberries and cream–and like it!

Is DeLong hearing Julian say something like “we should take satisfaction in our dissatisfaction”? Is that why his mind explodes? But that’s not what Julian is saying.

What’s going on!?

Maybe it would be helpful for DeLong if he were not to think like this:

(1) X is valuable iff X is a pleasurable mental state. (Axiom!)
(2) Someone just said A is valuable.
(3) But A isn’t a pleasurable mental state!
Therefore, (4) Head explodes. Aghh!

Not thinking/exploding like this might be helpful because sometimes people are just trying to say, more or less directly, that (1) isn’t true. And this is OK. This is allowed. For it is not the case that (1) is obviously true, self-evidently true, axiomatic, apodeictic, incontrovertble–cannot, like the law contradiction, be denied without affirming what is denied–, etc. It really might not be true. Really.

And so when somebody comes along and says something that implies that it isn’t ture, it’s not that they are therefore trying to say that it is true (because it just obviously, axiomatically is) and, on the other hand, it isn’t. Because that really would be stupid. The principle of charity indicates that we should assume that they are not stupid, but are trying to offer some reason not to believe (1). After all, there are reasons not to believe (1). And so it may not be especially helpful to address an argument that implies the falsity of (1) by forcefully repeating (1), or having one’s head explode (and then living to tell the tale).

Julian, I take it, thinks that something like autonomy or self-governance, or maybe existential self-creation, is valuable for its own sake. At least I think something like that.

Our lives are good lives just in case they are fully ours, constituted by our choices, even if they aren’t fully happy lives. Other things equal, happy lives are better than unhappy ones. But some happy lives are bad ones. And some unhappy ones are good, because they realize other values, like autonomy.

Now, it is rational to take satisfaction in what is valuable, and so we ought to take satisfaction in our autonomy, because our autonomy is valuable. But autonomy is not valuable because we take satisfaction in it. Autonomy is not like strawberries and cream. It may be that you have a taste for it or that you don’t. But if you don’t, you should. Because autonomy is a necessary requirement of a fully good human life, and you ought to take satisfaction in what will make your life go best, even if you don’t.

I trust no one will confuse this for an argument in favor of utilitarianism.

  • PJK
    I think you are really missing the point of the anecdote.

    Its origins (as near as I can reckon) is amongst the British elite, the sort who nosh on strawberries and cream on the lawn at Wimbleton, or at the races.

    The anecdote teller is relating what we would now call an urban legend- a friend of a a friend was attending one of those Bolshi rallies (for laughs of course), where the featured speaker regaled the crowd visions of life (strawberries and cream) after the revolution. One of the great unwashed retorts that he don't want none- a clear sign of unworthiness (probably doesn't even know what a strawberry is... All the toffs snicker at that...)

    The 'urban legend' is meant to suggest that the workers being recruited to overthrow the elites are unworthy to seize power- and would not know what to do with it once seized.
  • I think that you and DeLong may both be right in a sense. Even though X may not be a pleasurable mental state, it may be valuable. This I agree with, but WHY would it be valuable? I think that it would be valuable because it has the ability to produce a set of pleasurable mental states in the future whose utility will be clearly greater than choosing a pleasurable mental state now.

    Choosing freedom under poverty may be hedonically superior to riches under dictatorship, but most agree that it is not more "intrinsically" valuable. But you really need to define intrinsic for the statement to be intellectually satisfying. So how 'bout this: Think of choosing hedonically inferior states as a form of saving. Sure, sacrificing your freedom for increased pleasure may result in higher levels of utility now, but as a general rule, dictatorships aren’t as likely to produce environments conducive to hedonistic pleasure over the long-run. So we should, even if we are still maximizing pleasure, sometimes choose lower levels of utility now in order to produce greater levels of utility in the future. So 1) can be always true over the long-run, but sometimes false in the short-run.
  • Strophyx
    "The principle of charity indicates that we should assume that they are not stupid, but are trying to offer some reason not to believe (1)."

    But wouldn't this approach violate what seems to amount to The Prime Directive for so many people (frequently the ones who post the greatest quantities): Anyone who disagrees with me in maters of fact is, ipso facto, stupid; Anyone who disagrees in matters of taste is either evil or sick.
  • I suspect DeLong (and the others in the Utility Pack) would challenge "autonomy is a necessary requirement of a fully good human life."

    I suspect they will write something like "Can anyone be truly autonomous? No." and then either dismiss you as an anarchist, a fool or both.

    I believe that this is the Utilitarian version of the strawberry anectode:

    A) "After the revolution, you will be completly free."
    B) "But I'm not sure I'm ready to be completely free."
    A) "Ah hah! Then you don't want complete freedom. By extrapolation, I can throw a lot more regulations and controls on you, help myself to an even bigger chunk of your earnings so I can have a big pay raise at my cushy job at a State-funded school, and you can't complain about it - Yay me!"
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